Sep 13, 2020 #1 7 7mmpredator Well-Known Member Joined Dec 21, 2008 Messages 530 I've had these in my pack many more times than worn. They look like new. They are full featured packable rain gear. I am gonna gamble with the Axis Hybrids I bought after last season. New they were 299 and 249. Asking 425. shipped conus.