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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 368208" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>I will be the first to say if something is a poor product and will not pull the punches</p><p>but over the years I have seen all of the rifle manufactures fall into a slump as far as</p><p>quality control and most have learned that reputation will make or break you.</p><p></p><p>I saw remington fall into this several times "BUT" it was minor things like a poor fitting</p><p>stock,action screws that were two short (Only a couple of threads engagement), actions </p><p>that were not faced squarely and recoil lugs that were not ground perfectly flat ETC.</p><p></p><p>But Lately I have seen an improvement in machine tolerance (Better QC) than in the past</p><p>on there actions, And the wooden stocks are inleted better,</p><p></p><p>But as someone related to price controls quality and in order to hold the price down they</p><p>like others came up with tupperware stocks that are junk and are no more than a handel.</p><p></p><p>Also everyone is using a ugly black finish that is cheaper and as a results it looks cheap.</p><p></p><p>To avoid this you have to spend 2 or 300.00 dollars more to get a good stock and a good</p><p>finish.</p><p></p><p>This Wal-Mart mentality is the reason that quality has gone down on some models and </p><p>brands of rifles and will continue as long as the public wants cheep products as apposed </p><p>to top quality.</p><p></p><p>Fortunately there are better quality rifles in most manufactures inventory but you will have to</p><p>pay more for them.</p><p></p><p>And as to the accuracy of factory rifles the production line rifles will continue to be a pig in </p><p>a poke as far as accuracy with maybe 1 out of 20 that will shoot decent.</p><p></p><p>So overall I have seen an improvement in the machining tolerances in the actions in Remington</p><p>and a turn down in fit and finish in the cheaper models.</p><p></p><p>A custom barrel will cost an average of $300.00 and when you can buy a complete rifle for</p><p>between $300.00 and $400.00 dollars you cant expect much.</p><p></p><p>So if you want a good quality rifle you will have to pay for it ,if you just want a rifle that will</p><p>shoot 2 or 3 MOA then the cheaper models will work.</p><p></p><p>I blue print all actions and find minor problems with all brands including some custom actions</p><p>not just Remington.</p><p></p><p>Just my experiences of late.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 368208, member: 2736"] I will be the first to say if something is a poor product and will not pull the punches but over the years I have seen all of the rifle manufactures fall into a slump as far as quality control and most have learned that reputation will make or break you. I saw remington fall into this several times "BUT" it was minor things like a poor fitting stock,action screws that were two short (Only a couple of threads engagement), actions that were not faced squarely and recoil lugs that were not ground perfectly flat ETC. But Lately I have seen an improvement in machine tolerance (Better QC) than in the past on there actions, And the wooden stocks are inleted better, But as someone related to price controls quality and in order to hold the price down they like others came up with tupperware stocks that are junk and are no more than a handel. Also everyone is using a ugly black finish that is cheaper and as a results it looks cheap. To avoid this you have to spend 2 or 300.00 dollars more to get a good stock and a good finish. This Wal-Mart mentality is the reason that quality has gone down on some models and brands of rifles and will continue as long as the public wants cheep products as apposed to top quality. Fortunately there are better quality rifles in most manufactures inventory but you will have to pay more for them. And as to the accuracy of factory rifles the production line rifles will continue to be a pig in a poke as far as accuracy with maybe 1 out of 20 that will shoot decent. So overall I have seen an improvement in the machining tolerances in the actions in Remington and a turn down in fit and finish in the cheaper models. A custom barrel will cost an average of $300.00 and when you can buy a complete rifle for between $300.00 and $400.00 dollars you cant expect much. So if you want a good quality rifle you will have to pay for it ,if you just want a rifle that will shoot 2 or 3 MOA then the cheaper models will work. I blue print all actions and find minor problems with all brands including some custom actions not just Remington. Just my experiences of late. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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