input on a 338 edge elr bench gun

Discussion in 'Extreme Long Range Hunting & Shooting (ELR)' started by ar10ar15man, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. ar10ar15man

    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    i build my own rifles.
    just got hooked on elr br and have selected 338 edge as my next project.
    i have brass coming and a couple of 300 gr bergers to build dummy rounds with.
    looking at alex's stock but all else is open.
    i like krieger and broughton bbls, but open to suggestions...length brake suggestion.
    actions ? would like dual port right eject.

    i have read much of the 338 stuff here and am interested in long COAL.
    MAYBE 4 " ??
    SPEAK YOUR MIND..i'll listen( no change in cartridge...338 edge it is).
    thanks
     
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    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    i have read some brass is shoulder short. i was looking at a cheap bullet to fire form with and saw hornady's 250 rn. looks like it would allow bullet at the lands for a solid
    fire form first shot.
    comments ?
     
  3. Earnhardt

    Earnhardt Well-Known Member

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    Alex's stock?...
    Pics or a link?
    Thanks
     
  4. ar10ar15man

    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    ATH Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what you are looking for. Clearly single shot, so go longest OAL you can for sure. Mine is mag fed, but still near the top of a Wyatts extended box and required extensive modification of a Stiller long action and bolt stop.

    For a hunting rifle I went with a Heathen brake. For a bench gun I'd look at the Fat Bastard.

    Barrel wise, mine is a McGowan and I took third with it in a 2000yd competition and mine was the cheapest gun on the line. The rifle just flat shoots, 1/3 MOAish just as accurate as I can shoot a 20 Practical. No problem with the barrel manufacturers you list, I just went with where I could get a prefit and install myself with a nut.
     
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    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    probably a kelbly's golden bear in black.
    mag, dual port,
    bat m is a close second.
     
  7. Rhovee

    Rhovee Well-Known Member

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    Send Alex an email. He just built a 338 edge bench gun for a guy... Broughton barrels are awesome. I have one on my edge. ADG brass, Whidden dies, H1000 300 grain Berger. CCi 250. You'll be on your way....
     
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  8. ar10ar15man

    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    alex BUILDS complete rifles, and i want to build my own.
    so looks like i will just buy parts where i can and go from there.
    i have chatted with alex all week.
     
  9. Rhovee

    Rhovee Well-Known Member

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    Have you built rifles before?
     
  10. ar10ar15man

    ar10ar15man Active Member

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    yes.....
    30br score gun,
    6mm dasher 600/1000yd benchrest (2015 NATIONAL CHAMP),
    300 win mag 600/1000 br rifle
    navy seal mk13 sniper rifle
    and other non-competition rifles
     
  11. 4xforfun

    4xforfun Well-Known Member

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    I had my own reamer ground and my OAL is around 4.1 with the 300 Berger Elite Hunter. It is a single feed affair.

    Tod
     
  12. toddc

    toddc Well-Known Member

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    I like a 30"+ no taper as big as the action will hold. Maker? Anyone building tubes right now can build a hummer. Find someone you like and call it good.
    Action choice? I've built 3 Savage Edges that would hold under .5MOA past 1k pretty consistently for 10 rounds. All of them also dipped under .25 at times so I believe action choice is pretty wide open.
    Stocks? 2 of my Savages ran Choates ( gasp) and 1 ran a homemade plywood laminate with about 12 pounds of lead fill. All of my stocks were stupid heavy. The Choates were also lead fill.
    Depending on lead fill I ran them from 24 to as high as 40 lbs. Some say that with a good brake that weight isn't needed but a 40lb 338 kicks less than a 20lb 338.
    Biggest nastiest brake possible.
    Best brass possible. I went to Lapua as I tired of chasing RP and Nosler butter brass. This was before Bertram and others. I took every extreme step in reloading I could to ensure ES was nil. I ran H1000 , Retumbo , H870 and RE25 and looked for ES more than accuracy. Most loads would go sub .5 at short range so it's really just a game of ES. Velocity held around 2850 with the 300 SMK
    Used 300 SMK exclusively as I bought 5k of them and found them to be plenty consistent at least in the lot I had. No pointing or other actions though I did weigh about 500 and decided it was a waste of time.
    These were also my main hunting rifles. I hunt static from a truck so why not. I also shot them at everything. I would shoot hundreds of rounds a day at water turtles or rocks. Probably ly why I liked em heavy.
    Kind of an unorthodox way to get it done especially running Savage actions but they all shot better than most humans can call the wind.
     
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    TXAoudadKlr Well-Known Member

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    A Broughton 5C could be the ticket, I’m a big fan of bartlein barrels as well.

    Brake as mentioned the fat bastard or T3 or T4 Terminator bake
     
  14. RandyinVa

    RandyinVa Well-Known Member

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    McMillian Super Mag (.338 Rogue if you were open)