Awhile back I believe one of the administrators posted the proper dialog between the shooter and spotter. I tho't it was important enough to save on the desk top. For reference it is included, below. Well, guess what? It is important. Ol' Duffus Roy and Mungus Paul, a father&son team went to the range to get Duffus Roy on the target at the 1192 gong. Mungus Paul was the spotter. Another fella, local 50cal shooter observed all of this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Last session put the dials spot on at 500 meters. There is no target between 500m and the 1192yd gong. So it was dial and give it a go. Shooter was wearing Radian muffs with sound. Spotter was wearing foam ear plugs and was deafer than a post. I shot and asked which way do I move it. He heard, "where did I hit?" He said "to the right". I said how far. He said "a couple a feet". Let's see here 1.0472*11.92=where the calculator? Ah well lets go right a couple of MOA. Duffus sets up again and lets one go. Spotter says, looking at the bullet trail, "Wow, that's way higher than I would have tho't and it curved in behind that juniper. The only juniper that I saw was on the left. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Huh, that's about 1.5 Mils according to the dots. Sets see now, 3.6*11.92= still no calulator. Better crank in a couple more MOA to the Right. OK, lets do this again. Bank. Mungus Spotter says, "Hey that was cool. It curved in behind that juniper again. Duffus me is thinkin' damn for a 10 MPH wind here, it must be blowing like hell there" Then I says, "Which juniper are ya talkin' about (There's a zillion of em out there) Mungus spotter says, no kiddin this is really what he said, "The green one." Duffus Shooter says, Hell! they're ALL green. Mungus says "No the one I'm talking about is "greener" than the rest." Geeze, its just like talking with his mother, I thinks. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif The greener one is to the right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Hell!!!!!! Why didn't cha say I was hitting to the right!!!!!!!!??????? All of a sudden, things make sense!!! I dial out all those MOAs (musta been around 20 of 'em). Then dial in the windage for 500m which I knew to be spot on. Then dialed in the appropriate windage (into the wind this time /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif). Me and the spotter get synchronized for this shot. I let it go. Then I hear a 'Doink", aaaah I like these Radians. I asked Mungus Spotter if he saw it and that I tho't I hit it. He responds with, "I didn't see a thing. I wasn't looking at the gong. You've got me pretty well trained to look everywhere else." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Meanwhile the 50 cal guy in the peanut gallery is bustin' a a gut. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Mumbling something about having done something even worse than that one time. (Yeah, I bet! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif) I think I'm just gonna to to the range alone from now on. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Also, I think Mungus Spotter is due for an upgrade from those phome rubber plugs....... ------------------------------------------------------------ When you both setup, shooter is in final point of aim (on target) and spotter has his scope focused on target (usually focused just in front of the target so you can see the mirage best), then the spotter starts by saying: "Spotter is on the target." Now the shooter knows the spotter is ready to start. Then the spotter gives the shooter his windage and elevation adjustments or hold-off. The shooter repeats them back to confirm he has made the adjustment or knows the hold-off. When the shooter is ready, he simply says: "Shooter Ready". He stays on target but does not shoot. Shortly after, after checking wind and mirage conditions the spotter says: "Send It". After the shooter hears that he should fire within a few seconds if possible, to ensure he is firing in the wind condition the spotter called. After the shot is gone, the shooter does a "Call". He says, "Broke Clean" if the crosshairs were properly positioned. If he pulled the shot he describes the crosshair situation, for example he might say, "High left" or "Broke Right" so the spotter knows he may have influenced where the bullet hit, not a wind change. We mark the following info for each shot, Elevation, Windage, Call, Hit in a vertical column, plus mark the impact location in a little box. We also note wind, light, temps etc. at the top of the page. I made up a simple 8 1/2 by 11 page that we Xerox to keep track of about 40-50 shots per page. Keep a ring-binder for this. .