I was using 89.4 grains in my 300 Rum and still was at 2945ish. RL33 pushed them up above the 3K but I never got any good accuracy. Also this was single feeding. I've since went to the Hornady 220 at mag length good accuracy and about 3080ish. Still need to verify at 1K but at 760 it dropped my buck this year. I still don't really trust my chrono cause its usually off one way or the other................Now for another BS.. or (total mistake by someone or no knowledge what so ever about shooting and the effect of gravity on objects).. that I heard many years ago in a store from another customer. I so much wanted to tell him how dumb he sounded but I was much younger at the time and did not want to be the that guy...Anyway I was listen to a older man about 12 to 15 plus years my senior at the time, he was telling the kid (sales clerk)behind the counter how his gun shot a certain bullet type. Gun was dead on at 200yards site in height and then at 300 it was something like 6 inches low but at 400 it was back a few inches high and almost dead on again at 500. I did ask him to explain again how he was coming up with this and for the life of me he thought his bullet was doing some type of sign wave type of flight. For as I could tell he was not making any adjustment or holding over from what he was saying. Since the young kid behind the counter was really eating this up I just put on my ******** face, bit my tong really hard. and said WOW that's something and went to far end of the counter so I would not have to listen any more. Also there was another clerk putting some ammo away and I need some 06 rounds. I had the other sales guy ask me if I had heard and told him yes. He told me the guy had been talking this up for about 5 plus minutes and he the other clerk was going to have to straighten out the younger help they had resently hired. This all took place at the Shootin Den in Colorado Springs about 1998 or 99. I think to this day is been the wildest thing I have ever heard come out of someone that was completely convinced there gun shot this way.