I don't mean to sound out of line but I have become really fed up with many of the new members of our board. After browsing over some threads this evening I have realized that many members don't realize that they are on a LONG RANGE hunting forum. Quotes like these make me nauseated. A responsible hunter has no business shooting at a deer at 700 to 1000 yards, no matter what he can do from a bench. In the field with the adrenalin flowing, you may not be able to hit a barn at that distance. What's the matter, can't you stalk. Thats the fun part of hunting and the skill, I might add. A 308 or 30-06 is plenty of bang for a whitetail. For those of you newbies out there who post ridiculous commonts like the one above please go to gunsandammo.com and post on their forum, not ours. Sorry for my frusterations but I have lost patience with all the newbie morons. I hope I'm not alone.