Ok so me and my wife have had a not so great experience with accubonds which is odd because they are our go to bullets. We both shoot fast loads and both shot twice each at the deer (two separate days). All the shots failed (we like exits) but keep in mind we were at extreme close range (inside 75 yards). The bullets did work and killed the deer but both needed 2 shots to put them down fast. In both instances the deer ran about 20 yards and stood there giving us enough time for a second shot. Yes I understand the deer likely were dead before they knew it but none of the 4 shots on the two deer exited. The insides of the deer were a mess. What I don't like is there was zero blood outside of the deer due to lack of exit. I understand some will say this is what they want, all energy dumped inside the deer, but it isn't what I want which is why I'm looking at hammer bullets. I'm curious what the short range performance of the hammer hunter and not the shock hammers would be as we still do hunt out to 600 yards with these guns so would prefer to use the regular hammer hunters. Anyone shoot deer at closer ranges with these? What were your results?