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<blockquote data-quote="RockyMtnMT" data-source="post: 1720960" data-attributes="member: 7999"><p>I have on more than one occasion shot an animal and seen the kind of sight that started this thread. Once you slog through the clotted blood and mess. I have found still very minimal meat loss. It is just a matter of scraping it off. The amount of blood that actually permeates the muscle tissue is minimal. It is not like what you see in the muscle tissue when the same thing happens with lead bullets. I made a bad shot on a muley buck that went through both hind quarters center mass. I was so disgusted that I had wasted most of this animal due to my poor shot. We de boned him to pack him out and once into the chore figured out that I had only lost about 6 lbs of meat.</p><p></p><p>I will say again...It is not possible for a Hammer bullet totally fragment. The Hammer Hunters will always retain + - 70%, depending on the nose length. We have impact tested to 4200 fps with 30 cal bullets and weight retention stays the same as an 1800 fps impact. They just squish more. The copper we use sheds the nose petals to the depth that we drill the hollow point to. We tried other coppers that would not do this. At high vel, if the hole was too deep they would spit into 3 or 4 pieces all the way to the boat tail. When the hole was shallower they would open enough at low vel. When we found the copper We currently use we were able to get the nose petals to shed throughout the impact vel range and have the retained flat noise shank that we are after. This retained shank is what we are after for good terminal performance. The petals are not. What they do is a bonus. We have seen some poor shots that would have ended poorly if it were not for a petal getting to a vital organ. So I would call that a good thing. If we were to see a bullet hold onto the petals, like what Barnes shows in there promotional material, I would almost consider it a failure. It slows the bullet penetration too quickly, limiting the amount of permanent would channel.</p><p></p><p>For guys that want high fragmentation we do offer what we call a Deaf Blow Hammer. These we drill very deep hollow points so that the bullet will retain 40-50%, depending on nose length. We have some listed on the site. We can do this with any of the Hammer Hunters. If you don't see the one you are looking for listed, just order the Hammer Hunter in the weight and twist you need and put a note in the special Instructions on the checkout page that you want them in the DeadBlow version. Now that we are finally caught up on orders we will get these listed on the site along with several new bullets that we just haven'thad time to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyMtnMT, post: 1720960, member: 7999"] I have on more than one occasion shot an animal and seen the kind of sight that started this thread. Once you slog through the clotted blood and mess. I have found still very minimal meat loss. It is just a matter of scraping it off. The amount of blood that actually permeates the muscle tissue is minimal. It is not like what you see in the muscle tissue when the same thing happens with lead bullets. I made a bad shot on a muley buck that went through both hind quarters center mass. I was so disgusted that I had wasted most of this animal due to my poor shot. We de boned him to pack him out and once into the chore figured out that I had only lost about 6 lbs of meat. I will say again...It is not possible for a Hammer bullet totally fragment. The Hammer Hunters will always retain + - 70%, depending on the nose length. We have impact tested to 4200 fps with 30 cal bullets and weight retention stays the same as an 1800 fps impact. They just squish more. The copper we use sheds the nose petals to the depth that we drill the hollow point to. We tried other coppers that would not do this. At high vel, if the hole was too deep they would spit into 3 or 4 pieces all the way to the boat tail. When the hole was shallower they would open enough at low vel. When we found the copper We currently use we were able to get the nose petals to shed throughout the impact vel range and have the retained flat noise shank that we are after. This retained shank is what we are after for good terminal performance. The petals are not. What they do is a bonus. We have seen some poor shots that would have ended poorly if it were not for a petal getting to a vital organ. So I would call that a good thing. If we were to see a bullet hold onto the petals, like what Barnes shows in there promotional material, I would almost consider it a failure. It slows the bullet penetration too quickly, limiting the amount of permanent would channel. For guys that want high fragmentation we do offer what we call a Deaf Blow Hammer. These we drill very deep hollow points so that the bullet will retain 40-50%, depending on nose length. We have some listed on the site. We can do this with any of the Hammer Hunters. If you don't see the one you are looking for listed, just order the Hammer Hunter in the weight and twist you need and put a note in the special Instructions on the checkout page that you want them in the DeadBlow version. Now that we are finally caught up on orders we will get these listed on the site along with several new bullets that we just haven'thad time to do. [/QUOTE]
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