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<blockquote data-quote="therichardpowell" data-source="post: 832188" data-attributes="member: 54453"><p>So I just started reloading, and went out this morning to test out some loads and try to find my max load. I guess I will list out the components I am using and the processes I used to load them.</p><p></p><p>Stock Stevens 200 308 Win.</p><p></p><p>Winchester once fired brass</p><p>CCI 250 Primer, only primers I could find and my friend checked his Speer book and they called for a magnum primer for 2520</p><p>Accurate 2520 powder</p><p>Sierra 165 Grain Game King Soft Point Boat Tail</p><p>Neck tension on the ones I measured appeared to be .002"</p><p></p><p>Full length resized and deprimed using Hornady spray lube</p><p>Trimmed to 2.006", Chamferred and deburred</p><p>Tumbled in crushed walnut and nu polish and a touch of mineral spirits</p><p>Charged to exact by hand with a scale and a trickler</p><p>Bullets seated to .020" off the lands, No crimp</p><p></p><p>So I went and shot some this morning and got flattening primers way before I expected. I am using the Lee 2nd edition book, and they show a minimum load of 42.9 grains and a max of 47.7, so I started at 43 and increased in .5 grain increments. 43 grains shows no primer deformation, 43.5 I could tell the primer changed a bit but just barely, and 44 grains I got a flattened out primer...</p><p></p><p>43 Grains</p><p><img src="http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK43Gr2520_zps6a1647b3.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>43.5 Grains, Inconsistent flattening</p><p><img src="http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK435Gr25202_zpsc20e0451.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK435Gr2520_zps495ec962.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>44 Grains, flat...</p><p><img src="http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK44Gr2520_zpse8dd5580.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I don't have any ejector indenting or stiff bolt lift, the only other thing I can see is a mark where the ejector appears to scrape on the head maybe when lifting the bolt? Picture #3 kinda shows it. Is this something I need to watch for as well?</p><p></p><p>So at what point do you start backing off? I felt like the 43.5 grain is probably the max. It just seems weird that I am getting pressure signs a half grain above minimum. I will probably load up 10 rounds each of some lower charges to try for accuracy but then I will be under the book minimum... I have since found some CCI 200 primers, should I try them and see how it goes? Just looking for ideas, again I am totally new to this so I just want to make sure I am being safe and gonna get the best BANG for my efforts. Thanks in advance for your guys' consideration.</p><p></p><p>Edit, I did do a search and found alot of bickering back and forth about things that are far beyond my realm of understanding at this point in the game. I am just looking to find out what you guys would do. Keep going? Stop there and shoot some groups? Switch powders and start over?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="therichardpowell, post: 832188, member: 54453"] So I just started reloading, and went out this morning to test out some loads and try to find my max load. I guess I will list out the components I am using and the processes I used to load them. Stock Stevens 200 308 Win. Winchester once fired brass CCI 250 Primer, only primers I could find and my friend checked his Speer book and they called for a magnum primer for 2520 Accurate 2520 powder Sierra 165 Grain Game King Soft Point Boat Tail Neck tension on the ones I measured appeared to be .002" Full length resized and deprimed using Hornady spray lube Trimmed to 2.006", Chamferred and deburred Tumbled in crushed walnut and nu polish and a touch of mineral spirits Charged to exact by hand with a scale and a trickler Bullets seated to .020" off the lands, No crimp So I went and shot some this morning and got flattening primers way before I expected. I am using the Lee 2nd edition book, and they show a minimum load of 42.9 grains and a max of 47.7, so I started at 43 and increased in .5 grain increments. 43 grains shows no primer deformation, 43.5 I could tell the primer changed a bit but just barely, and 44 grains I got a flattened out primer... 43 Grains [IMG]http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK43Gr2520_zps6a1647b3.jpg[/IMG] 43.5 Grains, Inconsistent flattening [IMG]http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK435Gr25202_zpsc20e0451.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK435Gr2520_zps495ec962.jpg[/IMG] 44 Grains, flat... [IMG]http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/therichardpowell/165SGK44Gr2520_zpse8dd5580.jpg[/IMG] I don't have any ejector indenting or stiff bolt lift, the only other thing I can see is a mark where the ejector appears to scrape on the head maybe when lifting the bolt? Picture #3 kinda shows it. Is this something I need to watch for as well? So at what point do you start backing off? I felt like the 43.5 grain is probably the max. It just seems weird that I am getting pressure signs a half grain above minimum. I will probably load up 10 rounds each of some lower charges to try for accuracy but then I will be under the book minimum... I have since found some CCI 200 primers, should I try them and see how it goes? Just looking for ideas, again I am totally new to this so I just want to make sure I am being safe and gonna get the best BANG for my efforts. Thanks in advance for your guys' consideration. Edit, I did do a search and found alot of bickering back and forth about things that are far beyond my realm of understanding at this point in the game. I am just looking to find out what you guys would do. Keep going? Stop there and shoot some groups? Switch powders and start over? [/QUOTE]
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