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First Focal Plane Vs. Second Focal Plane
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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 782976" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>Jeff, I am most certainly not trying to give you any advice. You surely have no need for any from me and when you do the kind of shooting that is challenging to me, your vastly greater experience and "muscle memory" (if that definition fits) means that you are able to compensate without needing a crutch like a better reticle for closer range. It is simply a fact that out west you will get a lot more coyote shooting opportunities than I will and their behavior is different too.</p><p></p><p>However, I do think that people in my situation who have less practice and less opportunity, will benefit from the type of scope I use for coyotes.</p><p></p><p>This thread is in the Long range forum, but the OP asked a question which does not necessarily apply specifically to long range hunting only. If I ought to withdraw any comments related to shooting less than 600 yards because of which forum this thread is in, then perhaps that was my mistake, as opposed to addressing the subject of the question.</p><p></p><p>You never mentioned price in any of your posts that I recall, but that does not mean that it is not common knowledge what some of the brands cost and there were some pretty direct posts on spending $3k plus on scopes. Until 13 years ago I hardly earned $600 a month, so I am not joking about money either. Particularly money for the future.</p><p></p><p>We should not attack each other about whats best, but rather try to openly consider when someone might benefit from having some specific technology. I fired exactly 8 rounds from September to February in the field. I killed 4 deer (2 early season does, 1 buck on Nov 15 and 1 additional doe at 10 yards in the muzzleloader season) in addition to the coyote double. I missed a few times too when I got a bad range from my replacement Nikon Monarch rangefinder. We have to use slug guns here in deer season, so ranging is nearly as critical as in bow hunting.</p><p></p><p>Clearly, I will never become a marksman or learn how to lead a running animal with that number of shot opportunities. Having reliable subtentions on the reticle has certainly helped me. If my experience can help any of the other million midwest or east coast hunters, that would be a positive thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 782976, member: 35183"] Jeff, I am most certainly not trying to give you any advice. You surely have no need for any from me and when you do the kind of shooting that is challenging to me, your vastly greater experience and "muscle memory" (if that definition fits) means that you are able to compensate without needing a crutch like a better reticle for closer range. It is simply a fact that out west you will get a lot more coyote shooting opportunities than I will and their behavior is different too. However, I do think that people in my situation who have less practice and less opportunity, will benefit from the type of scope I use for coyotes. This thread is in the Long range forum, but the OP asked a question which does not necessarily apply specifically to long range hunting only. If I ought to withdraw any comments related to shooting less than 600 yards because of which forum this thread is in, then perhaps that was my mistake, as opposed to addressing the subject of the question. You never mentioned price in any of your posts that I recall, but that does not mean that it is not common knowledge what some of the brands cost and there were some pretty direct posts on spending $3k plus on scopes. Until 13 years ago I hardly earned $600 a month, so I am not joking about money either. Particularly money for the future. We should not attack each other about whats best, but rather try to openly consider when someone might benefit from having some specific technology. I fired exactly 8 rounds from September to February in the field. I killed 4 deer (2 early season does, 1 buck on Nov 15 and 1 additional doe at 10 yards in the muzzleloader season) in addition to the coyote double. I missed a few times too when I got a bad range from my replacement Nikon Monarch rangefinder. We have to use slug guns here in deer season, so ranging is nearly as critical as in bow hunting. Clearly, I will never become a marksman or learn how to lead a running animal with that number of shot opportunities. Having reliable subtentions on the reticle has certainly helped me. If my experience can help any of the other million midwest or east coast hunters, that would be a positive thing. [/QUOTE]
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