# "european turret" vs moa

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by Lievois, May 15, 2017.

1. ### FEENIXWell-Known MemberLRH Team Member

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I don't think he's asking for how anti-cant indicator works. He's asking why would he need a 20 MOA base when a Vortex Razor has a total elevation adjustment of 125 MOA.

Cant is also used in describing the angular relationship of how the scope is mounted in relation to the barrel ...

On either case, it's best not to hijack this thread.

My sincere apologies to Lievois if I strayed you off course.

Cheers!

2. ### Mcranch1242Member

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Filip, I do apologies for as it was put! hijacked your thread. But I wanted to say that I googled info from YouTube and it was explaining Mil vs Moa, i don't pretend to understand the turret on Euro vs Moa. I'm new to this site and trying to navigate has been a learning experience. One Mil is 1/10 or .36!at 100 yard. One Moa at 100 is 1.047. But gain I don't begin to understand Euro measurements. Sorry for the Hijack.

3. ### edward hoganWell-Known Member

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MIL-Radian is 3.6" at 100yds.... 1/10mil is .36"

Does your MOA reticle actually move at the correct fractional value? 1/4moa = .262 1/8moa = .131

Probably NOT.

A Euro turret is often 1 cm per click at 100 meters 2.54cm = 1"

Probably the Mil-Radian system is easiest understood and most consistently easiest to employ in the field.

If you are trying to get precision bullet placements and not doing the complex moa fractional conversions, at significant distance with low BC or low velocity bullets; you're gonna be off. Shooting a .308win sighted in at 100yds which has 360" drop at 800yds would mean 45moa: IF moa was 1" at 100, but it's not...

Fractions matter at all distances. One less decimal place to convert to if you are using Mil-Rad.

Does it matter on hunting scope on large game animal target? Probably not... If you are a meat hunter and look to break spinal column or do other precision placement then maybe so...

One other thing: Until you test your scope with 100yd zero, you can't be sure you will have even 50% of your total elevation range of adjustment. Might only have 55 or 60moa out of the 125 total range after socpe is zeroed.

4. ### dfanonymousWell-Known Member

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Where were you during the MIL vs MOA poll that was forever being argued on here...

5. ### Mcranch1242Member

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Probably shooting pigs that were rooting up my wheat fields

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Good man