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<blockquote data-quote="Wetwrk" data-source="post: 2247814" data-attributes="member: 27786"><p>Another thank you for your service from another vet and I appreciate your opinion. I was in the same boat for years. Close and personal. Well it all changed about three years ago. Bare in mind I'm 50 going on 51. Was a die hard .270 kid. All my clan used .270 for deer, elk, and lopes. Here's my open minded change.</p><p></p><p>I live in a nice long private valley, no neighbors within a mile. I can shoot up to 1400 yards off my porch at targets if I wanted, the hill sides lay out perfect. But never did, I reloaded for my .270, had a 3x9 Leup duplex scope. Put a pie plate out at what I thought was 100 yards, shot and called it sighted in. Then I would sneak into 150yards or less for my shots on game. Simply sighted in for a inch above on a hundred yard target, done.</p><p></p><p>I was happy til the neighbor kid showed up with his 6.5 Creed, his 7mm, and 300wm. He'd dropped off gongs on the hillside above my house, on his property at 600 yards and 1000 yards from my porch. And dared me. Brat neighbor kid half my age, set up on my porch and did some crap on his phone, twisted some crap on his scope and said I couldn't hit the 600 with his Creed.</p><p></p><p>First shot with that stupid Creedmoor I wacked 8inch gong hard at 600 yards, no recoil, and I actually got to see the hit through his fancy scope. He did some more crap with his phone, cranked his scope and damned if I didn't hit a 10inch gong at 1000 yards. Not as hard, but I wacked it. Definately going harder than a arrow even at 1000 yards. Did the same with his other rifles but wow they hit harder and I couldn't watch the impacts til the rifle layed back down, then it was just a swinging gong. Turns out he competes, but I didn't know. But I'm hooked and happier knowing I now can take shots way past what I thought I could. In the last three years I've been let's say enhancing my range and upping my equipment to suit my possibles. Neighbor kids gongs are perminate now and we added a few.</p><p></p><p>I live on a cattle ranch, my fam's been ranching since 1908. same ranch. We eat our friends. We're nice and kind and gentle. We take great care every day of their lives...then we eat them. I raised each and every one at this point, touched each and every single one from baby to grown. Know each one by sight. Then I turn around and have to eat some of them. It's a switch. You can be a kind, repectful hunter at a much longer range than I imagined with ther right equipment. It just takes good gear and a billion hours of pratice, and knowing you can make the shot no problem. If you are nervous you need to get closer. The twenty years I was in the service I lived on the ocean. I used a lever action 30-30. You couldn't see more than 50 yards so what good was a .270?</p><p></p><p>Thanks again for your service.</p><p></p><p>ps. There is no closer and personal than a contact shot. Which I made one interesting cow elk hunt with my .270. She walked right into my muzzle, ducking into the thicket I was hunked down in. You don't need a suppressor with contact shots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wetwrk, post: 2247814, member: 27786"] Another thank you for your service from another vet and I appreciate your opinion. I was in the same boat for years. Close and personal. Well it all changed about three years ago. Bare in mind I'm 50 going on 51. Was a die hard .270 kid. All my clan used .270 for deer, elk, and lopes. Here's my open minded change. I live in a nice long private valley, no neighbors within a mile. I can shoot up to 1400 yards off my porch at targets if I wanted, the hill sides lay out perfect. But never did, I reloaded for my .270, had a 3x9 Leup duplex scope. Put a pie plate out at what I thought was 100 yards, shot and called it sighted in. Then I would sneak into 150yards or less for my shots on game. Simply sighted in for a inch above on a hundred yard target, done. I was happy til the neighbor kid showed up with his 6.5 Creed, his 7mm, and 300wm. He'd dropped off gongs on the hillside above my house, on his property at 600 yards and 1000 yards from my porch. And dared me. Brat neighbor kid half my age, set up on my porch and did some crap on his phone, twisted some crap on his scope and said I couldn't hit the 600 with his Creed. First shot with that stupid Creedmoor I wacked 8inch gong hard at 600 yards, no recoil, and I actually got to see the hit through his fancy scope. He did some more crap with his phone, cranked his scope and damned if I didn't hit a 10inch gong at 1000 yards. Not as hard, but I wacked it. Definately going harder than a arrow even at 1000 yards. Did the same with his other rifles but wow they hit harder and I couldn't watch the impacts til the rifle layed back down, then it was just a swinging gong. Turns out he competes, but I didn't know. But I'm hooked and happier knowing I now can take shots way past what I thought I could. In the last three years I've been let's say enhancing my range and upping my equipment to suit my possibles. Neighbor kids gongs are perminate now and we added a few. I live on a cattle ranch, my fam's been ranching since 1908. same ranch. We eat our friends. We're nice and kind and gentle. We take great care every day of their lives...then we eat them. I raised each and every one at this point, touched each and every single one from baby to grown. Know each one by sight. Then I turn around and have to eat some of them. It's a switch. You can be a kind, repectful hunter at a much longer range than I imagined with ther right equipment. It just takes good gear and a billion hours of pratice, and knowing you can make the shot no problem. If you are nervous you need to get closer. The twenty years I was in the service I lived on the ocean. I used a lever action 30-30. You couldn't see more than 50 yards so what good was a .270? Thanks again for your service. ps. There is no closer and personal than a contact shot. Which I made one interesting cow elk hunt with my .270. She walked right into my muzzle, ducking into the thicket I was hunked down in. You don't need a suppressor with contact shots. [/QUOTE]
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