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Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by H82MISS, Dec 8, 2019.
I guess I'm pretty old but I still have an old Leupold with mildot and 1/4 moa adjustments. Both are 2nd focal plane but low enough mag (highest is 14X) the max magnification is still useable at medium ranges. On my 30-06 with 2.5-8X I've shot out to 750 yards just using the holdovers. But with my Leupold Long Range Tactical I use my mildot reticle for quick holdovers and dial moa for come ups. My point is either system will work. But mil ret/ mil dials, or moa ret/ moa dials will make your life much easier. Pick one and drive on.
Well I have read all the pages on this subject and I still maintain that there are only three kinds of people...them that are good at math and them that are not.
I are not!
LMOA! Same here. I'm so old I still tape ballistic cards to my stock lol.
Nothing wrong with a card attached to your stock. Last years deer hunt I made up a quick card from current atmospheric conditions & elevations using Strelok. I think I ran the ballistic app out to 450 yards and had the card as a quick reference. Turned out great, my son was on his rifle and I had binos range finder working. Looking at the card I gave him his dial up and he made a perfect 350yd shot.
How true. Having mixed scopes is just a nightmare without an App. IMHO anyway. I once used a friend rifle when mine pooed it’s pants temporarily. His scope which I believe was a vortex had MRAD adjustments with an MOA reticle. I really lost confidence quickly until I realized they were not matched.
It sounds complicated, but it's not that bad. I use the KISS method. Reliable rangefinder ranges either the terrain I'm hunting in or the actual target/ game. Range cards shows where to aim on reticle and come ups. Plug in and read the wind, slow steady squeeze.
I too love the KISS method. Although it might sound like I’m a Sig Sauer rep, I’m certainly not. I just like to comment on what I feel is a good quality system. SIG Sauer BDX is just that. I’ll assume you, or others are not aware of this system so I’ll continue.
You talk about range cards. It does that too. What they call a ballistic reticle I believe. You can range 7-8 known target areas and they appear inside the scope. Now let’s say an animal arrives at a area ( say third illuminated dot down ) simply put that dot on the target and hold for wind and as you say squeeze the trigger. No worries about MOA/MRAD
I'm aware of the Sig system. I'm not sold on it.
Not that I wanna drift to far off topic folks (sorry), however in the interest of potential discovery WRT MOA vs MRAD I’ll ask; would you mind offering your thoughts on The BDX system?
When it comes to things I rely on I want a proven system. The bdx hasn't been around long enough to be tested to my liking. As far As I know it has plus or minus 1 moa error in it. And the systems I've seen are good only to 800 yards.
All of what you’ve stated might be true. However my two rangefinders (one being binoculars) and two scopes have worked flawlessly. As to the 800m this is not quite true. If you change the mode to ABX and pair it WITH either a kestrel 5700 or the Garmin 701 (both of which I have and have extensive experience using with the BDX systems) you can shoot out as far as the reticle will allow. If the dot is in the field if view you can shoot. Further then what any person should be hunting ANYTHING. IMHO.
I think Sig must be on to something as everyone else is creating a similar system. However I do believe that keeping and honing basic skills should be the first thing practiced at the range. Thankx for your response BTW
Okay I'll bite, how far have you shot with your system and what was the size of your target/ object? Did you hit first on the first shot? As per their website now they claim 1 moa error on the ballistic holdovers and 800 yard range.
In any case the OP wanted a system for hunting out to 1k yards. The bdx doesn't sound like it's up to the task.