We have had great results with 175 ablr in 280ai, 7 saum and 7mag on elk and deer running them over 3000 fps. Had exits with them past 600 yds on elk and the one we do find are nice mushrooms. Used the 210 ablr in 300 prc this year running over 3100 performed good as close as 30 yards on elk. I haven't been able to blow one up yet even shooting them thru stacks of newspaper at close range. The 160 ab work very well too .