.. Hey guys.. I've been in the basement goofin' around with the new goodies and checkin' some things out.. I'd like to set these dies to where they size the neck and just bump the shoulder.. I took measurements before and after sizing.. What I gathered in this brief little experiment was that the die sized the neck from .343 (fireformed) to .334 (sized).. The way I had the die set it was sizing about 7/8 of the way down the neck..(Can I assume I wasn't touching the shoulder.?) I pulled the bolt guts (but not the ejector) to try and get a better feel for proper sizing.. Even with unsized cases (still FF'd) I didn't get any noticable resistance.. Eeenteresting.. I'm still not sure what the best way to check this shoulder is.. .. It seems that the neck size is pretty stout.. I'll be looking forward to trying out a set of collet dies on this puppy.. Any reason not to.? I got great results with them on everything else.. Most of the time the "improved" cases will work in the "standard" collets with no problems.. .. Any suggestions on die setup.? My first instinct is that since the dies and the chamber are made to spec then just bottom it out on the shellholder.. But I thought I'd tinker and see what came of it.. Whatchyathink.?? d:^) JiNC PS- Ya gotta love that Winny bolt.!! Look Ma.! No tools..!!