THIS! It's hatred IF you are not aligned with my position. My life style, my politics, my religion, ad nauseam.It's the same mentality being shone around the country over the last few years..."the hatred of the other"....it's just carried over into our sport...like it or not..
Cattle leases are issued by BLM and the National Forest Service, not fish and game departments. Additionally, you cannot get a permit to graze in a wilderness area unless cattle grazing permits were issued before that area became a dedicated wilderness area.Even "public wilderness areas" out west are over run with cattle from privileged ranchers and outfitters who pay the game commissions. Its not uncommon to find cattle above 10000 feet during archery season.
While I admit I painted with broad strokes, and there are differences state to state, I stand by this as my experience
I’m from Texas and I’m not really a fan of drinking and hunting. The people I hunt with at the end of the day May go back to camp and have some beer. I just never seen them take it with them out in the field. Hum. I do t know everyone in Texas.My observation here in NM is that the bad hunters are often from Texas, where they can't afford a hunting lease. The ones that come from out of state are often from the big city and just don't know enough about hunting. We hear talk of Texas bullseye (shot in the A**) and "Sound Shots". Things got much better here when they mandated hunter's education. My favorite hunt is in the wilderness areas. Once you're a mile or two from the road, you don't see many hunters. When I was young I watched some "hunters" load 10 cases of beer into their truck for the hunt. I also spotted a hunter on the rimrock "scoping" me with his rifle. He determined that I wasn't a deer and picked up his beer again. NM doesn't allow out of state hunters to hunt cow elk, which makes it easier for me to fill my freezer. They also give out lots of landowner tags which helps the locals, and should make them friendlier to hunters. All of you non-residents help support this poor state and our Game and Fish. Thanks.
It's neither the resident or non resident, it is us. We've allowed the alphabet soup of agencies to squeeze us into smaller, and smaller spaces, while spending our resources frivolously. USFS has mismanaged the forest to where instead of making money, we're literally choking out west as resources go up in smoke. BLM is spending over half its budget dealing with feral horses, instead of something constructive. "Wildlife" Departments depend on lotto systems to generate funds, instead of actually having game numbers to support more opportunity. USFWS needs no introduction really, but it would be a shame to leave them out.Well I guess I'll jump in. I was a non res. in Wy. for many years. Ut., Az., Nv., Co., Mt., NM., Wa. and Ca.. non res. Some for over 35 years. I could never count the $ I've spent on non res tags and gas food gear etc.. I don't want to know. I have never felt more privileged because it cost me more than a resident. I feel the same way as most all here. Treat it like it was your own and leave it better than it was. I always pick up the beer cans left by tree/wood cutters. My thinking an empty can has to be easier to carry out than full. If I go to where people shoot , there's always trash left. I don't get it. And to shoot bottles ???
Some states are worse than others. I won't say which ones or why. If I'd have to pick a percentage of non res. or res. That were slobs from what I've seen in the last 50 yrs. it would be resident's. One thing to think of, there are a lot of resident's that hunt other areas in the state than where they live. Who knows, maybe some of them don't care as if it was their own home town area they hunt ? Still what I see from both is a very small percentage .