Well, I've been shooting the Thors. 300 gr ballistic tip over 105 gr of T7 FFFG seems to give me soft ball sized groups at 100yds, with iron sights. That's plenty good for me. I doubt the elk will care. I tryed 126 gr, but that was a little much, and accuracy was not there. Hopefully in a few weeks I'll have pictures of the results.