Cold Toes

Discussion in 'Backpacking Gear & Clothing' started by unclefish, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. ssssnake529

    ssssnake529 Well-Known Member

    Sep 10, 2015
  2. shphtr

    shphtr Well-Known Member

    Jul 7, 2006
    Go to see your reg doctor. If medically cleared, THEN you can experiment with different boots, socks, heated insoles or whatever.
  3. slas

    slas Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2017
    I hear ya. I'm in the same boat and getting worse with age. I usually do the polypropylene bottom layer with merino wool on top then a insulated boot. Just bought some new insulated mucks to try out but even then they still feel cold.
  4. unclefish

    unclefish Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2014
    I wore a big pair of baffin snowmobile boots a couple weeks ago for winter league skeet shoot. they work but man are they heavy. When I took them off it was like I was walking on air. Not sure If I could hike in to my spot in them when I am in colorado . Have a hard a nuff problem getting there now with my meindl ultra lights. I am do for a CDL physical in April going to mention it then and see what he has to say.
  5. 7magcreedmoor

    7magcreedmoor Well-Known Member

    May 23, 2012
    At the risk of stating the obvious: are your boots large enough and do you lace them too tight? Buddy of mine always complained of cold feet when we were in the woods, until I watched him lace up one morning at camp. You might have thought he was tuning guitar strings or some such. I mentioned he might be over-doing things a bit and showed him how I set the tension in my laces with a little "wiggle-room". He hasn't had a problem since.
  6. unclefish

    unclefish Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2014
    No I have even tried leaving real loose even to the extent that the laces will come out of the quick hitches. and come untied. I already wear a wide . so the room is there I believe . I did try the little toe warmers again moved them up further on my toes but it wasn't real cold but I dealt with the feeling of them being there.If they can't figure out why. I think I will try heated socks maybe I can turn them on and off easily .
  7. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2012

    You need a Vapor Barrier Liner (VBL)

    Buy a pair of 3 mm thick neoprene divers sox and 4 or 5 pair of thin polyester or polypropylene liner sox. US Divers brand neoprene sox are best B/C they are factory seam sealed (a must) and are marked Left and Right dedicated sox so they fit better W/O bunching.

    Wear them as you would wear relatively thick wool socks but they will keep you much warmer ALL DAY.
    At night remove the VBL sox, turn them inside-out to dry. Remove the skanky smelling liner socks and let your feet dry. Next day use new liner socks.

    I have used this VBL method for decades and my felt pac liners or ski boot foam liners always stay dry and warm.
    I am a former Nordic Ski Patroller and Alpine Ski Patroller (16 years total) and former US Army ROTC Cadet Winter Survival instructor. I do know whereof I speak when it comes to winter clothing.

    Eric B.

    P.S. In sub-zero winter camping people often also wear VBL suits over a thin base layer. It's a bit clammy in the morning but for a multi-day trip your sleeping bag is warm EVERY night and does not slowly accumulate heat robbing moisture.

    Read the story of the British Scott South Pole expedition of the early 1900s. They all died of hypothermia B/C they had no sleeping bag VBLs and the down bags all eventually froze solid.
    On the other hand Roald Amundsen's Norwegian expedition beat Scott to the pole and made it back to their base in good shape B/C they used reindeer sleep "robes" which could have the body moisture brushed off after it froze when dried out in the mornings. As well the Norwegians travelled much faster than the Brits because they all were on cross country skis.
    Last edited: May 2, 2018
  8. jjmp

    jjmp Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2007
    unclefish, with all respect , bath your feet more pamper them soak them elevate them, wont wear cotton in winter feet sweat socks get wet chill feet esp toes. change socks often , try a sprinkle of Red cayenne pepper in your shoes , we are all getting older that don't mean we ain't smart . by now gotta change my socks lol!!!
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  9. claybreaker

    claybreaker Active Member

    Mar 22, 2013
    ^^^ Circulation is a big deal, I try not to sit on/in something that will put a lot of pressure in one place... don't use a folding chair that has a supporting bar across the front. If you can make slow very controlled walk around your spot very while or so to stimulate the circulation.

    If you are not walking a lot "Pac boots" have a thick insulation, but not much support.

    I use boot insulators (Artic Shield) and place a "hot hand" packet or two in each one. I put these on as quick I get to my stand and don't wait until your feet are getting cold. So the heat does not go in your boot but between your and the boot insulator.

    If your feet sweat up after walking in, maybe take a extra pair of dry sock and put them on after you to where you are going.

    Good Luck and Be Safe,
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