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Chassis rifle builds vs high end production rifles for backpack LRH and south paws.
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<blockquote data-quote="WeekendWarrior" data-source="post: 2139221" data-attributes="member: 117901"><p>I appreciate the thoughts. </p><p></p><p>My rifle goes on the side of my pack, not in it, which makes shooting less complicated than you described. The stock goes in a side water bottle pocket, and I use one compression strap to fasten the barrel to the pack. The sequence of events for shooting is drop the pack, undo the one clip which I can do silently, and use the top yoke of the pack to stabilize the rifle, or lay down prone, and make the shot. In truth the time it takes to perform these shots is insignificantly longer compared to taking the same shot with the rifle in my hand or shouldered. Either way, the pack still comes off, and one clip to get my rifle doesn't make a difference from a time perspective. At longer ranges, I usually have time for this. I find I "hurry up and wait" more than immediately shoot. I get in a good position and just stare through my scope for 20-60min+ waiting for the animal to go broad side or other animals in the herd to move out of the way... just lots of waiting.</p><p></p><p>That said, the shot that I haven't been able to make is a quick standing shot because I have to take off my pack first. This really messes with the scenario of emerging into a meadow or field, usually making more noise than desired in the process, suddenly seeing something I missed while glassing, and not being able to simply shoulder my rifle and shoot. I have the long-range, patient shot down, but not the quick shot. Last year I ended up hunting elk at lower elevations in some aspen forests, and in anticipation of needing to make a quick shot I held my rifle in my hands, but after the first couple days my arms were so soar from holding a 16.3lb rifle all day I started putting it back on my pack. As I got to know the unit better, I started finding elk, and I kept screwing up the shots because I couldn't get my rifle out fast enough as I was finding them all-of-the-sudden.</p><p></p><p>The folding stock is desirable for the pack in and pack out portions of my backcountry hunts. I currently hunt with a chassis, and the mlok never catches on things, the muzzle however is a different story. Shortening the rifle by 10" with a folding stock would put the muzzle at head level and should keep it from catching on anything I don't hit my head on first. When I'm actually hunting, I imagine having the rifle shouldered because it would be lite enough to do so and at it's full length and ready to shoot, or in hand if hunting timber. I'm in Colorado at the moment, and most of my hunts start by putting my head down and pounding trail to get past the crowds for the first day, so my rifle is on my pack during this time regardless of what the rifle is. I think a folder would be great for this purpose.</p><p></p><p>I did find a custom shop that makes both carbon fiber traditional stocks and does custom builds with the XLR element magnesium chassis. After talking with their team over the last two days, I decided to go with the chassis setup. The way I'm hunting, I think the chassis makes a lot of sense. Its going to have a 26" proof sendero lite barrel and a titanium action. Prior builds with the same parts were coming in around 6.1lbs, and will go sub 6lbs with a shorter barrel. I'm going to be happy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WeekendWarrior, post: 2139221, member: 117901"] I appreciate the thoughts. My rifle goes on the side of my pack, not in it, which makes shooting less complicated than you described. The stock goes in a side water bottle pocket, and I use one compression strap to fasten the barrel to the pack. The sequence of events for shooting is drop the pack, undo the one clip which I can do silently, and use the top yoke of the pack to stabilize the rifle, or lay down prone, and make the shot. In truth the time it takes to perform these shots is insignificantly longer compared to taking the same shot with the rifle in my hand or shouldered. Either way, the pack still comes off, and one clip to get my rifle doesn't make a difference from a time perspective. At longer ranges, I usually have time for this. I find I "hurry up and wait" more than immediately shoot. I get in a good position and just stare through my scope for 20-60min+ waiting for the animal to go broad side or other animals in the herd to move out of the way... just lots of waiting. That said, the shot that I haven't been able to make is a quick standing shot because I have to take off my pack first. This really messes with the scenario of emerging into a meadow or field, usually making more noise than desired in the process, suddenly seeing something I missed while glassing, and not being able to simply shoulder my rifle and shoot. I have the long-range, patient shot down, but not the quick shot. Last year I ended up hunting elk at lower elevations in some aspen forests, and in anticipation of needing to make a quick shot I held my rifle in my hands, but after the first couple days my arms were so soar from holding a 16.3lb rifle all day I started putting it back on my pack. As I got to know the unit better, I started finding elk, and I kept screwing up the shots because I couldn't get my rifle out fast enough as I was finding them all-of-the-sudden. The folding stock is desirable for the pack in and pack out portions of my backcountry hunts. I currently hunt with a chassis, and the mlok never catches on things, the muzzle however is a different story. Shortening the rifle by 10" with a folding stock would put the muzzle at head level and should keep it from catching on anything I don't hit my head on first. When I'm actually hunting, I imagine having the rifle shouldered because it would be lite enough to do so and at it's full length and ready to shoot, or in hand if hunting timber. I'm in Colorado at the moment, and most of my hunts start by putting my head down and pounding trail to get past the crowds for the first day, so my rifle is on my pack during this time regardless of what the rifle is. I think a folder would be great for this purpose. I did find a custom shop that makes both carbon fiber traditional stocks and does custom builds with the XLR element magnesium chassis. After talking with their team over the last two days, I decided to go with the chassis setup. The way I'm hunting, I think the chassis makes a lot of sense. Its going to have a 26" proof sendero lite barrel and a titanium action. Prior builds with the same parts were coming in around 6.1lbs, and will go sub 6lbs with a shorter barrel. I'm going to be happy. [/QUOTE]
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