In order to hunt on the base I live on, you have to qualify with your bow. Now the qualification isn't difficult, however you have to do it from a stand, a stand that is at a height that is much higher than any height I would climb to. So any mistakes I make with my feet on the ground were magnified 100 times. I think people 100yds away could hear my arrow bouncing on my rest as I was drawing it back! My buddy had a crossbow with him, so I asked him if I could qualify with that so I didn't get shut out. I was able to place that bolt anywhere I wanted to. It was like shooting a rifle, hell sighting in a scope makes more sense to me than "Chasing the Arrow"! I'm hooked. Now a few buddies of mine bought Parker Crossbows when they were going out of business. Since I didn't partake, I set out to purchase one. Then sticker shock kicked in. Why the hell are these things $2K? Now I had to find a budget bow, that can get the job done. So I tuned to Wal Mart, I found a CenterPoint Patriot 415. I did some research and found out that Center Point is owned By Crossman and supposedly made in the US. Crossman also purchased Ravin, so some technology sharing may result from the purchase. I called Crossman to figure out what's the difference between the AMPED/Patriot and Heat 415. It's just the Camouflage. I did research and the reviews of the Centerpoints were all favorable. I bought it (330.00 with my wife's discount) put it together and took it to the range, out of the box with the factory scope, this thing will put bolt on top of bolt at 20 and 30 Yards. I purchased some 20" Carbon Express Pile drivers and went back to Wal Mart and bought 150gr Shwackers. They came with practice heads. Went to the range and can shoot a 6" group at 50. This thing is pretty awesome. I have my eye on a 8 point Piebald that I plan on using the shwackers on next week. For around 400.00 for bow, bolts and broadheads, you can have a bow that is accurate and probably realistically shoots at 360 FPS. For those on a limited budget and want a bow that is very capable of putting meat on the table the CenterPoint 415's are a great option. I will post my hunt results, wish me luck!