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RockyMtnMT

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It is a long unfortunate hunting story that I prefer not to get into now, but I have a question for you all about primer failure.

I started using CCI 250's a few years ago when I was unable to get Federals. Now just a couple of weeks ago I had one not go off and lost a mulie of a lifetime.

What I want to know is if others have had this problem and if I should send it into CCI to have them tell me why I lost my trophy.

Thanks for your input.

Steve
 
Are u sure it wasnt a rifle malfunction? Or weather related.. temp can effect a round if it gets down past 0 degrees sometimes. Have u measured ur firing pin.. make sure its getting good contact everytime..
 
It is a long unfortunate hunting story that I prefer not to get into now, but I have a question for you all about primer failure.

I started using CCI 250's a few years ago when I was unable to get Federals. Now just a couple of weeks ago I had one not go off and lost a mulie of a lifetime.

What I want to know is if others have had this problem and if I should send it into CCI to have them tell me why I lost my trophy.

Thanks for your input.

Steve

I read your post and just smiled. Primer failure rifle failure or operator failure doesn't make any difference. I'm assuming when you say a buck of a lifetime he was probably over 30 with crap hanging everywhere and you had him dead but he survived. Been there done that more than once. He put the "bad ju-ju" on you and your stuff and pulled it off. Big old bucks are good at that but eventually you will win and man it's good when it comes down!!

CCI and Federal are the primers I use and yes have had a few miss fires over the years.
 
Perhaps I will have a smith check the rifle before I send the suspect into CCI for their explanation.

Where it really went wrong was the firing pin hit hard enough to stick the bullet in the lands and out came an unfired case full of powder. Now I could not run another. Neck tension was very light on the Cutting Edge so I was running as a single shot. Chamber was cut for a crush fit so the case is not loose in the chamber.

Steve
 
Both a buddy of mine and I have had CCI primers fail. When we approached our local gunsmith with the issue, he said 'yup, from time to time CCI primers don't go bang'. This is especially try when the temperature approaches 32* As a result, all my hunting loads use Federal primers.
 
Both a buddy of mine and I have had CCI primers fail. When we approached our local gunsmith with the issue, he said 'yup, from time to time CCI primers don't go bang'. This is especially try when the temperature approaches 32* As a result, all my hunting loads use Federal primers.

Hmm. This happen just as the storm started three weeks ago in central MT. I shot it a few days later and got a buck in colder weather with no issue.

Steve
 
Hmm. This happen just as the storm started three weeks ago in central MT. I shot it a few days later and got a buck in colder weather with no issue.

Steve

Agreed. Misfires are the exception rather than the rule. But when it comes to hunting and having the deer of a lifetime in front of you (as mentioned by the OP) 99.9% is not good enough.
 
Not to dash any cold water on anyone, but the cruel truth of the matter is that primers are about the most consistently reliable device known to man. When there's misfires involved, it's almost always traceable back to a gun problem, or something the handloader did in assembling the ammunition. By actual count, I have run across exactly three (3) bad primers over the past 25+ years, out of upwards of two million rounds I've loaded during that period.

Three, out of over two million.

Two of these didn't even make it into the case, as I spotted them during the priming process. The third was actually loaded by a friend of mine, and likely cost him a win at a 600 yard BR match in St. Louis a few years back. Exactly the same problem in all three; no compound. In the two that I ran across, I plainly saw the bright metallic shine of the inside of the cup, right where the compound should have been, beneath the anvil. My friend tried to fire his round, the last in a five round string of a registered BR match, and got a resounding "click" when the striker fell. Time ran out, that was his last round, and he wound up with only four hits (but a beautiful group) on paper. He brought the round down to the range the next day for an autopsy, assuming he'd forgotten to charge the case with powder. Pulled the bullet, and found a fully charged case with the appropriate load of powder. Carefully decapping the "fired" primer, we immediately saw the same thing as I had with the other two; no compound at all, just a cup, a foil and an anvil. Hey, it happens.

These were spread out over several years, but as I mentioned, entailed something in excess of two million primers. Pretty good odds, but you've still got to pay attention to the actual loading, as well as the condition of the firearm.
 
No trouble as of yet with the 250's, but have found a bad lot of 200's.

The primers in question were lot number D27S. Here's a link I posted at Practical Riflery...
Practical Riflery Forums... techniques and equipment of the practical rifleman... :: View topic - CCI 200 primers, lot number D27S... problems

The primers which did not fire are .006" shallow. We found these primer to fail in four different rifles, using four different loads. Two 270 Winchesters... one 30-06, and a .308 win.

So I don't know if CCI is getting lax on the QC trying to keep up with demand, but the D27S lot of 200's is a bad one.

The thing is, only 6 of the box of 100 primers were bad. But we also found bad ones in other lots marked D27S.

The CCI lot numbers are stamped into the box face... you have to tilt it in the light to see the lot number.

Dan
 
It is a long unfortunate hunting story that I prefer not to get into now, but I have a question for you all about primer failure.

I started using CCI 250's a few years ago when I was unable to get Federals. Now just a couple of weeks ago I had one not go off and lost a mulie of a lifetime.

What I want to know is if others have had this problem and if I should send it into CCI to have them tell me why I lost my trophy.

Thanks for your input.

Steve


Last year I had some CCI-400s that were duds. About 18% of one tray of 100 were no good. Didn't lose a trophy because of it but a couple of woodchucks had to wait a few days before I could lower their blood pressure. Otherwise CCI's have always gone BANG for me and I still use them.

Pete
 
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