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Carlos Hathcock .30-06
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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Nate" data-source="post: 366213" data-attributes="member: 8533"><p>Shooting with Hathcock's son and shooting at camp Perry would certainly be a humbling experience.</p><p> </p><p>Would I be right in guessing that the Unertyl scope slid forwards as a means to avoid scope cuts? In the book, Henderson states that they had to assemble whatever was on hand to supply the guys, Redfield scopes, M70 rifles, M700 rifles, M14's for the spotter's (guess these weren't scoped) and also M1 Garand sniper rifles from WW11. He mentions Hathcock having to re-set the Unertyl with each shot.</p><p> </p><p>The 2MOA groupings don't sound fantastic by todays standards- was this at the beginning or later, when the bore was worn? </p><p> </p><p>Here in NZ, we had the Lee Enfield SMLE as our sniper/ police tactical rifle. Some grouped OK but you never knew from rifle to rifle how things might turn out. I remember shooting one from the police arsenal that wouldn't do better than 3MOA off the bench. I have a History channel doco/DVD of the English using the SMLE for sniping. Average range for 'hunting' was around 300 yards which you can clearly see in the doco. In Hendersons book, Land didn't like his guys being inside 600 yards and 1000 yards was all the better for survival of the precious few men he started out with. Of course, this was the downfall of the Japanese, shooting a little too close and then sitting tight rather than moving off after contact, for the sake of an idealogical view of honour.</p><p> </p><p>All very interesting responeses here on the boards. I will definitely have a read of the books you guys have mentioned. I liked the post about taking a shot at 380 yards as a young fella and being over the moon about it. I think everyone here who was raised with rudimentary factory rifles has been through the same experience. </p><p> </p><p>I still wonder about the 700 yard zero. I guess Hathcock must have had to refer to his notebook (tables) or memorize his notebook to keep that zero. I also wonder why Winchester never really lifted their game when it came to competing against Remington regarding sniper rifles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Nate, post: 366213, member: 8533"] Shooting with Hathcock's son and shooting at camp Perry would certainly be a humbling experience. Would I be right in guessing that the Unertyl scope slid forwards as a means to avoid scope cuts? In the book, Henderson states that they had to assemble whatever was on hand to supply the guys, Redfield scopes, M70 rifles, M700 rifles, M14's for the spotter's (guess these weren't scoped) and also M1 Garand sniper rifles from WW11. He mentions Hathcock having to re-set the Unertyl with each shot. The 2MOA groupings don't sound fantastic by todays standards- was this at the beginning or later, when the bore was worn? Here in NZ, we had the Lee Enfield SMLE as our sniper/ police tactical rifle. Some grouped OK but you never knew from rifle to rifle how things might turn out. I remember shooting one from the police arsenal that wouldn't do better than 3MOA off the bench. I have a History channel doco/DVD of the English using the SMLE for sniping. Average range for 'hunting' was around 300 yards which you can clearly see in the doco. In Hendersons book, Land didn't like his guys being inside 600 yards and 1000 yards was all the better for survival of the precious few men he started out with. Of course, this was the downfall of the Japanese, shooting a little too close and then sitting tight rather than moving off after contact, for the sake of an idealogical view of honour. All very interesting responeses here on the boards. I will definitely have a read of the books you guys have mentioned. I liked the post about taking a shot at 380 yards as a young fella and being over the moon about it. I think everyone here who was raised with rudimentary factory rifles has been through the same experience. I still wonder about the 700 yard zero. I guess Hathcock must have had to refer to his notebook (tables) or memorize his notebook to keep that zero. I also wonder why Winchester never really lifted their game when it came to competing against Remington regarding sniper rifles. [/QUOTE]
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