Caliber advice

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  1. Reloder28

    Reloder28 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I am a dyed-in-the-wool 7mm fanatic. I have owned/shot all but four of the 7mm cartridges. No experience with 7x57, 7 RUM, 7 STW or 28 Nosler.

    I would suggest 7 Wby as I have extensive hunting & load work with mine. My maximum self-imposed hunting range is 600 yards. None of my barrels exceed 24".

    7 RSAUM
    Just now getting started with load work on a brand new rifle. It is the match for my 280 AI & if the RSAUM meets the accuracy/velocity level of my AI, the AI may begin to collect dust.

    7 Weatherby - My favorite
    Took an Elk with a 140 @ 3400 fps but mostly hunt with a 3000 fps load for lesser animals. Taken many Axis with 150's @ 3250.

    300 WSM - Ballistic twin of the 7 Wby
    Took a Red Stag & a Pronghorn Antelope (overkill) with a 165 Accubond. I am currently running 155 Scenar's & am in love with terminal performance as well as accuracy & downrange ballistics.
     
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  2. vince warren

    vince warren Active Member

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    You really have several options...decisions decisions.....just decide on one you like with enough ebergy etc to do the intended job...good to go but could be tough choice..
     
  3. BigJohnH

    BigJohnH Active Member

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    .308 done deal.
     
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  4. Overkill338

    Overkill338 Well-Known Member

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    I think it all comes down to $$$. It's all in how fast you want it to spend. Do you want to be able to pick up off the shelf ammo if your ammo doesn't make it where you are going? Are you not going to travel, and use a full custom reloading setup with proprietary brass? It's all in how much $ you want to shoot.
     
  5. Reloder28

    Reloder28 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I don't disagree at all. My 308 Winchester's push 155 Scenar's to 2900 fps. But, I still like the added horsepower of my 300 WSM's.
     
  6. Alibiiv

    Alibiiv Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    MSP, I am considered to be "Ole School", and will stick with that if it makes some feel better; I'm not into the new designer cartridges. I do like the older cartridges because many of them are time tested, and....they work. I have a 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester, 45-70 and a .270 Ackley Improved<because I wanted one instead of the 280AI. With that I am thinking about a new build, I presently have a Ruger 77 chambered in 30-06; I like Ruger 77 actions. So....been kicking around just do a build with truing the action (blueprinting), a good trigger, and putting a good barrel on it and chamber it to 30-06; they work. Or another good cartridge that I like is the 338-06; hits like the hammer of Thor, a good bullet selection and about the same recoil as the 30-06. Trajectory wise, with a 225 gr bullet, the 30-06 and the 338-06 are about the same, only the 338-06 delivers a bit more punch. I believe that just as important as the cartridge is the bullet selection for the game that you want to hunt. With all of the new bullets that are out on the market today, bullet selection seems to be as important as cartridge/caliber.
     
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  7. 5.56×250

    5.56×250 Well-Known Member

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    300 or 325 wsm . Compact rifle/plenty of punch to 600yds for elk/moose
     
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  8. FamilyH

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    I think you will need a caliber of 338 or larger to do what you want. Check them out , a 35 Whalen my do just fine for you
     
  9. skipglo

    skipglo Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    What do you perceive the difference to be between the two and why not 300 wm?
     
  10. WAHOOYAHOO

    WAHOOYAHOO Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I built a Remage in 7 rem mag, 7.75lbs and a Limb Saver recoil pad. Shooting it is like kissing a pretty girl. It's an honest half-minute gun with 180 ELD and H1000 in an 8 twist Kreiger. However, I have a friend with a Sendero in 7 rem mag with the factory stock and hard-as-a-hammer recoil brick. Despite its 11lb weight, I won't shoot it. Every shot is like a kick to the face.
    With 600 max range, your field is really wide open. I am a .284 guy to the bone and I prefer to stay away from the extreme fringes. I love .284 for its wind performance and super slippery very high BC pills, but these characteristics aren't super valuable below 600yds.
    If I had to choose a <600 yd medium/big game cartridge I'd probably still choose the 7mm Rem Mag, load to that lighter node at 2720 ft/sec with the 180 ELD (closer to 1/4 minute), enjoy a longer barrel life, less recoil, fantastic terminal performance and be done, but there are a LOT of cartridge choices you could consider. I'd overlook the Noslers and mega-super magnums. They have nothing to offer at less than 600 yds.
     
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  11. skipglo

    skipglo Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    He said hit like a hammer ..not a truck!..creed will hit like a hammer...not sure you could throw it 600 yards though!
     
  12. jasonco

    jasonco Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    If all you want is 600 yds, any factory 7RM will do, with premium ammunition. BC at that range, is just starting to become a factor, at 600. SD(sectional density) and repeatable accuracy would be more important here.
     
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  13. ofbandg

    ofbandg Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Alibiiv. I shoot a 338-06 that puts 180 to 185 grain premium bullets out there at 3000fps from a 22 inch barrel. It has proved very effective on game of all sizes. I still carry my .375 in big bear country but that's simply to reduce the pucker factor. For anything else the 338 will do.
     
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  14. Overkill338

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    A 180-185 from a .33 has less BC and SD than a 180-185 from a .30. I'd throw it away if 180s is all it will use. Plus I have a general disgust of anything -06 based. Since I was a kid that's all I've heard 30-06 this, and 30-06 that. Hell with those M1 Garands in WW2, I'm not sure why they needed tanks, artillery and airplanes. 1 shot from a .30-06 will cause people to implode into a black hole, animals to vaporize, tanks to explode and airplanes to go down in flames. Plus it shoots 10,000 yards with no drop and the wind is afraid to blow on it. #&$% the -06, and any of its demon spawn.

    My father in law gave our son a Savage in 270, I made him leave it there and got him a .308 to replace it.
     
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