I am a little confused. Last year I went elk hunting in Utah came up over a ridge and there was a bull of a lifetime at 180 yards shot him 5 times with a 208 a max at 3325 fps. Before he fell. The bullets only penetrated about 5 inches into the elk. I was extremely disappointed in the performance of the bullet. This year I went mule deer hunting in Colorado. I ended up killing a mule deer at 728 yards. One shot deer never took a step. My buddy and the guides were extremely impressed. So my buddy found a nice mule deer bedded up under a pine tree at 535 yards he said his rifle was not capable of taking a shot like that and asked to use my gun. I dialed the dope in my scope and he made a great kill his mule deer just rolled over dead. Two great kills. We decided to go to town and get ready for our trip home when Cody one of the guides called me and said can we use your rifle we have some hunters that have not tagged out yet. I was a little reluctant because of what happened last year. I ranged the first elk 1090 yards checked the wind dialed in the dope and the first hunter dropped the elk like a ton of bricks. The group of Elk ran to 1180 yards. The next hunter got up and shot his elk. Ran about 25 yards and fell over dead. Both elk were almost complete pass throughs. It it possible that 180 yards was just too close for the 208 A max?