Browning xbolt hells canyon LR help!

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by RRAY87, Apr 19, 2019.


Help Support Long Range Hunting by donating:


  1. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    Anyone on here shooting a Browning xbolt hells canyon long range in a 7mm mag? Getting into long range shooting and was seeing what everyone's recommendations on powder type, brass brand, type of primers? I'm thinking of using the Berger EOL 195gr bullets. But would like some input on the rest. Thanks for the info in advance!
     
  2. 257Tony

    257Tony Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    621
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2013
    I have the McMillan version in 28 Nosler. Awesome rifle, worth every penny of the $1725 I paid for it. Shoot slights out with 180 ELD-M. If you are shooting a 7 rem, I'd recommend bullets in the 168-180 class personally. You won't be able to push the 195 fast enough to see any advantages, at least in a saami chambered rifle.
     
    cross and RRAY87 like this.
  3. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    What is a saami chamber? What powder and primers are you using?
     
  4. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,771
    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    I have the shorter (22" barrel), slower twist (1:8) 6.5 CM X-Bolt Pro. With 140 gr. Hornady ELD-M factory ammo I regularly get 1/2 MOA groups.

    Browning has, with the X-Bolt series, done many things very well to give us truly great factory rifles. I was going to build my rifle around a Nucleus short action but the cost mounted up fast as I added up the components. Then I checked out the SAKO Carbonlite. Mmmmm! Lookin' good.

    But when I actually held a Browning Hell's Canyon and compared it in the store to the SAKO Carbon Wolf they had I was sold on Browning's design. Plus the new 3 lever Feather triggers were at least as good if not better than the legendary SAKO triggers.

    * Then there was the $900. price difference between the X-Bolt Pro and the Carbonlite.
    Browning... hmmm... great trigger, nicer carbon fiber stock, factory lapped stainless barrel, fluted barrel, bolt and bolt handle and burnt bronze Cerakote on both the metal and the CF stock, center feed magazine, etc., etc.

    It was then I realized the Japanese workers at Miroku could turn out rifles every bit as good as the Finnish workers at SAKO. And Browning's American designers carried on their company's historic design leadership as well.

    Eric B.
     
  5. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    Yea I don’t know about the xbolt pro guns and wether there triggers are the same as the xbolt hells canyon but the trigger in my gun is not my favorite... Browning claims the can get it down to a 3Lb. Pull but 4lbs is the best i can get and that was pushing it.
     
  6. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,771
    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    Well I get 2.8 lbs. BUT if you go to YouTube and search for "X-Bolt trigger spring replacement" there is a video that shows how to remove the factory spring and install the new aftermarket 2 lb. spring. (I forgot the name.)
    My factory trigger is as light as I want for hunting.

    BTW, all X-Bolt rifles have the same 3 lever "Feather Trigger".

    Eric B.
     
    RRAY87 likes this.
  7. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    I must have a defective trigger then. I messed with it for awhile and 4lbs was all I could get But I called Browning and the sending me a new trigger for free.
     
  8. Crunchy

    Crunchy Active Member

    Messages:
    29
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2013
    H1000 is a good food source for any 7 mag. As far as primers I use Fed 215s. I would echo the 160-180 range of bullets.
     
    cross and RRAY87 like this.
  9. BallisticsGuy

    BallisticsGuy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    675
    Joined:
    May 8, 2016
    US869 from 75-80 grains with 168-180 bergers does well from long barrels. Otherwise, retumbo and call it a day.
     
    RRAY87 likes this.
  10. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    I looked online last night and found that aftermarket trigger spring, mcarbo, and ordered it! $20 for a spring is better then $175 for a hole new trigger! Thanks for the help!!
     
  11. kfreeze

    kfreeze Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    175
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2014
    A friend shoots 195 bergers in his custom 7 mag and it likes retumbo.
     
    RRAY87 likes this.
  12. 18whlsrolin

    18whlsrolin Member

    Messages:
    15
    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2018
    If you have a 1 in 9 1/2" twist rate and want to keep bullet consistently stabilized no matter the elevation at long range then I would not go past a 175 grain bullet. I really like 160 in my x bolt long range 7 mag. Lots of great bullets for target so just see what it likes. IMR 7828 ssc, H1000, Retumbo and Reloader 22/25/26 are all great powders for a 26" barreled 7 mag. Federal magnum and gold medal match magnums are my favorite but Winchester magnums or CCIs could better match your rifles accuracy node. Load development/workup takes time but is great fun. I have the Mcarbo trigger spring and it does help. Watch install video closely and safety check/dry fire a lot before going live. I adjusted a bit more than they advised and could get delayed firing or failure to fire. So long as I followed instructions it works great. Good luck to ya
     
    RRAY87 likes this.
  13. RRAY87

    RRAY87 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    I have the 2018 x-bolt Hell’s Canyon Long Range which has a 1:8 twist rate. And from what I’ve been reading the H1000 with the federal 215m primers and the Berger 195gr EOL will be a good starting point. But you never know my gun might not like it at all.
     
    18whlsrolin likes this.
  14. HobieH3

    HobieH3 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    125
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2019
    SAAMI is factory standard. May not have a long enough leade to use longer (heavier or mono copper) bullets without jamming them into the rifling when closing the bolt which can cause pressure issues and/or extraction problems with a live round (the cartridge could stick, or the bullet could pull out of the case). Generally the magazine length prevents this but that is not a given.
    There are also Improved, aka Ackley Improved or AI, chambers that have increased case capacity but can still fire factory ammo.

    Whew! Learned that all right here
     
    RRAY87 likes this.