Martin@Hin
Well-Known Member
My take on bore scopes, barrel bores , copper and carbon,performance,techniques and results.
I have guns from 17 to 50 cal, old new , Black Powder to S less I cast a lot of bullets and reload.
And have a Hawk eye (I believe) bore scope
Most of my guns are not shot a great amount .
Guns and hunting has been my passion for over 50 years
So;
A bore scope a great tool and eye opener and educator .
As a machinist I always assumed that barrels are machined to perfection, but looking through them with a bore scope tells a different story.
With some exceptions I would say that 75% of mid range rifles barrels are not smooth and have tool/ chatter marks in them.
Custom or after marked barrels however are in general a work of art they are a pleasure to look at and are to be treasured.
These are the top performers with the right amount of tweaking,however I find it amazing that a large proportion of the so called mediocre barrels seem to ignore that they are rough and shoot extremely well.
Like as in case of my Savage 6.5 CM (.3@ 100mtr
An other one 30 year old .340 Lazermark heavy crocodile throat .5 @200mtr
Next 94 W 32 spec no decent rifling left ,shot cast bullets to fill the gaps jacketed bullets after that 1.5" @ 100 y open sights.
So to me a bore scope tells me if I have a rough barrel or a super barrel,if my barrel is clean ( is there carbon left) but it wont tell me how it will shoot as far as factory barrels go.
On the carbon subject;
The way I shoot my guns I never ran much of a problem with it if there was any it was taken care of by my regular cleaning methods.
Up until now, up here we are now facing the government proposed gun theft that includes my Stag varmint (AR) so I figured I better shoot it some more before .....
Shot a bunch of Chinese ammo so here is a ton of carbon.
Shooters choice mix with Kroil no good.
K4 carbon remover no good
K4 bore polish no good
Read somewhere on this forum, wet patch of Kroil followed by short stoke with patch of JB.
Repeat 2 or 3 times very good.
Carbon in chamber; 15 "long brass rod 3/16 or ¼ diam cut slot 1' length wise on one side roll up a wad off 0000 steel wool soak in Kriol slow speed in a drill done-so very good.
Just my 2 cents
Martin
I have guns from 17 to 50 cal, old new , Black Powder to S less I cast a lot of bullets and reload.
And have a Hawk eye (I believe) bore scope
Most of my guns are not shot a great amount .
Guns and hunting has been my passion for over 50 years
So;
A bore scope a great tool and eye opener and educator .
As a machinist I always assumed that barrels are machined to perfection, but looking through them with a bore scope tells a different story.
With some exceptions I would say that 75% of mid range rifles barrels are not smooth and have tool/ chatter marks in them.
Custom or after marked barrels however are in general a work of art they are a pleasure to look at and are to be treasured.
These are the top performers with the right amount of tweaking,however I find it amazing that a large proportion of the so called mediocre barrels seem to ignore that they are rough and shoot extremely well.
Like as in case of my Savage 6.5 CM (.3@ 100mtr
An other one 30 year old .340 Lazermark heavy crocodile throat .5 @200mtr
Next 94 W 32 spec no decent rifling left ,shot cast bullets to fill the gaps jacketed bullets after that 1.5" @ 100 y open sights.
So to me a bore scope tells me if I have a rough barrel or a super barrel,if my barrel is clean ( is there carbon left) but it wont tell me how it will shoot as far as factory barrels go.
On the carbon subject;
The way I shoot my guns I never ran much of a problem with it if there was any it was taken care of by my regular cleaning methods.
Up until now, up here we are now facing the government proposed gun theft that includes my Stag varmint (AR) so I figured I better shoot it some more before .....
Shot a bunch of Chinese ammo so here is a ton of carbon.
Shooters choice mix with Kroil no good.
K4 carbon remover no good
K4 bore polish no good
Read somewhere on this forum, wet patch of Kroil followed by short stoke with patch of JB.
Repeat 2 or 3 times very good.
Carbon in chamber; 15 "long brass rod 3/16 or ¼ diam cut slot 1' length wise on one side roll up a wad off 0000 steel wool soak in Kriol slow speed in a drill done-so very good.
Just my 2 cents
Martin
