Sooner or later the nipple will gas cut. What attempts to prolong it, is that Remington made it harder than the original Ultimate breech plug.That is very interesting info. So if IOI read you right, the Rems gas cut no matter what you use, just the BH 209 makes it worse. I guess I never shot the Rems I had enough to see the gas cutting before I sold them along.
That is very interesting info. So if IOI read you right, the Rems gas cut no matter what you use, just the BH 209 makes it worse. I guess I never shot the Rems I had enough to see the gas cutting before I sold them along
HW, I have shot them all, of the subs BH 209 is far and away the best for many reasons. Now I also shoot a lot of Flint Locks so real BP is the only good choice in them but in the modern inlines BH wins hands down.
Thanks for sharing your experience, there is nothing like getting real information right from a knowledgeable source...nuff said...Arrowhead here I come!First let me just say that I'm personal friends with the man that invented and created that ignition system, Ken Johnston at Ultimate Firearms Inc. Remington purchased the rights to use the ignition system from Ken. I know the rifles well.
I've replaced 4 breech plugs, all from being gas cut nipples and yes they will gas cut. Once they gas cut, you're done until you get a replacement. But then of course, you still have to deal with PP head space and even worse, PP primer carriers. That brass that Remington pawns off can have a head thickness that varies up to .020" and I can assure you, there's no way to properly seal that brass on that nipple with that kind of brass.
Remington tried to harden up the breech plug nipple to help, but they still will end up gas cutting, rather using the recommended propellants, and especially BH209. Its not if, but when. BH209 was never approved by Remington, nor was it listed in the owner's manual.
Without question or hesitation, if you plan on shooting BH209 from your RUM purchase the Arrowhead system. Why on earth would you replace a primitive breech plug with another primitive breech plug and go through the same process over and over? You do know that they say that is the definition of insanity
Dad (R.I.P.) always used to say: "If you don't have the money or time to do it right the first time, where will you get the money and time to have to do it over?"
The Arrowhead ignition system will give you a lifetime of proper ignition and without any leaking or gas cutting. You can shoot all the BH209 you want to shoot and never worry about gas cutting, or having the ignition system fail on you while on a hunt of a lifetime. THAT my friend, makes the Arrowhead ignition system priceless in itself!
care to quantify that statement? I’ve actually shot both and Alliant black can’t hold a candle to BH209 in any category.Alliant Black is a far better powder.
Great info...just received my custom breech plug from Arrowhead; have sent it back to them to have it machined since bolt closed easily on the .220 module...care to quantify that statement? I’ve actually shot both and Alliant black can’t hold a candle to BH209 in any category.
1. Bh209 is not only faster but more consistent load to load.
2. Bh209 tends to be more accurate for most serious shooters.
3. BH209 burns cleaner.
4. bh209 is less hydroscopic so it doesn’t absorb as much water and lose efficiency over time.
5. Bh209 doesn’t corrode a fired barrel nearly as quick as alliant black due to ambient moisture after firing.
6. More rounds before swabbing with bh209
7. Bh209 cleans quickly with standard rifle solvents and your back to shooting so less mess and hassle.
I just heard today, from Western, that they sold out to Hodgdon. Thats what i also called them for, which s to check on shelf life. Sad to here that! BH209 is awesome stuff.If kept properly, it has and indefinite shelf life.
IIRC Western tests their first run every year.
Yes I have a arrowhead breech plug in my Rem 700 and I replaced the barrel on a old 700 ml, with their breech plug and it works greatI have read where BH 209 when used in the REM 700 Ultimate can cause gas cuts in the breech plug and the primer unit after as few as 25 shots. My Ultimate shoots great with pellets, but I want to use BH 209 and Parker Match Hunters for a trophy elk hunt in 2021 in NM. In your opinion should I invest $155 for an Arrowhead breech plug (custom fit for exact head spacing) or maybe just install a new Remington breech plug ($45) when I detect gas cutting with BH 209?