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<blockquote data-quote="C.E.G2860" data-source="post: 275640" data-attributes="member: 14779"><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong>VELOCITY & ENERGY</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Compared to earlier black powder substitutes, like Hodgdon's older </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Pyrodex</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>, both </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> and </strong></span>]<span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> are extremely energetic powders.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Shooting last fall with my favorite .50 caliber Knight DISC Extreme revealed that with a 100-grain volume- measured charge of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Pyrodex</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> "RS Select", the powder would get a saboted 260-grain Harvester Muzzleloading </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>"Scoprion PT Gold"</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> out of the muzzle (26" barrel) at 1,656 f.p.s. - which is about the same as when shooting the same amount of FFFg black powder. The same rifle and bullet gave 1,944 f.p.s. with a 100-grain volume-measured charge of FFFg</strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em> Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>... and 1,968 f.p.s. with the same volume-measured amount of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>. In comparison, the </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> load generates 2,236 f.p.e., while the </strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>load is good for 2,179 f.p.e.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Upping the powder charge to 110 grains of each powder pushes the </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> velocity to 2,018 f.p.s. (with 2,353 f.p.e.) and the </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> velocity to 2,039 f.p.s. (with 2,400 f.p.e.). Note: These are all volume-measured charges. By actual weight, a 100-grain volume-measured charge of either </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> will be right at 70 grains. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>BORE FOULING</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>One of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209's</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>most outstanding traits is that the bore does not have to be wiped between shots to maintain excellent accuracy. In fact, with some saboted bullets, I find that my .50 caliber Knight rifle, which came with a premium quality Green Mountain barrel as standard equipment, gives its very best accuracy when the bore IS NOT WIPED between shots. The fouling left behind is extremely light, and does not build with successive shooting. In one shooting test, I actually shot all afternoon, putting 50 shots through one </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>not-so-big hole</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> at 100 yards. All 50 of the 300-grain Harvester Muzzleloading saboted </strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>"Scorpion PT Gold"</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>bullets printed inside of 1 3/4 inches. And the bore was not wiped once. Anyone who has shot with</strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven </em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>charges will attest that shooters must wipe the bore between shots to maintain accuracy. I've found that in a tight hunting situation, I can get in a reload and second shot with</strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven </em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>without wiping the bore. But a third shot is always off the mark by several inches...and a fourth shot is totally out of the question.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />(Note: When using standard strength No. 209 shot-shell primers for ignition, charges of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> tend to leave a hard, cursty ring in the bore, just about where the saboted bullet seats over the powder chaerge..This </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>"crud</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>ring"</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>, as shooters have come to call it, prevents the shooter from seating the projectile in the exact same spot shot after shot - unless time in taken to thoroughly wipe the bore. In worse cases, this ring has also seized the jag and cleaning patch...requiring the breech plug to be removed and often the use of a second rod to tap out the stuck ramrod/loading rod. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong>The use of special Winchester </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> or Remington Kleanbore ML 209 primers, which retail for about twice that of standard 209 shot-shell primers, help eliminate this problem.)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>ACCURACY</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong> </span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />The shooter who does take the minute or so required to wipe fouling (and the crud ring) from the bore will find </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven </em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>to produce some outstanding accuracy. In fact, for several years, the powder was the only propellant </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>would use on a hunt,</strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>and it has produced some of the finest groups I've ever shot with muzzle-loaded rifles. I'm now getting that same kind of accuracy with</strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> without having to wipe the bore. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>The load I hunted with last fall consisted of 110-grains of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> and the 300-grain</strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>"Scorpion PT Gold"</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> bullet. For ignition, I relied exclusively on the standard Winchester 209A primer, which sells for about half of what the special </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven </em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Primers go for, and my Knight DISC Extreme (Long Range Hunter model) would consistently keep shots inside of 1 1/4 inches at 100 yards. On a few really good days, the rifle and I punched a few very impressive 1/2- to 3/4-inch groups. This heavier version of the Harvester Muzzleloading saboted polymer-tipped spire-point, pushed by 110-grains of the new powder is good for 1,945 f.p.s., with 2,521 f.p.e. Out at 200 yards, where some pre-season shooting revealed the rifle and bullet would keep five shots at 2 1/2 to 3 inches, the load plows home with 1,329 foot-pounds of retained energy. Several deer taken with the load at 150 to 185 yards were put down within 20 yards of being hit with 1,500 to 1,600 foot-pounds of retained energy.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />To insure precise shot placement, the rifle I hunted with was topped with one of the multi-reticle Leatherwood/Hi-Lux </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>HPML</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>scopes that I helped develop, mostly shooting these same Harvester Muzzleloading bullets.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>More recently, on my new test range just outside of Missoula, MT, I have taken my volume-measured </strong></span>, <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong> charges up to 120-grains. According to the folks at Western Powders, the pressures created by this amount of powder behind the 300-grain bullet are still less than with the so-called 150-grain charges of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven Pellets</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>. The load gives me 2,030 f.p.s., compared to just 1,918 f.p.s. with three 50-grain</strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven Pellets</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>. The </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>load is good for 2,826 f.p.e., while the </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven Pellet</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> load generates 2,448 f.p.e. The lighter 260-grain </strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>"Scorpion PT Gold",</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> propelled by 120-grains of </strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>, gets out of the 26" Green Mountain barrel at 2,153 f.p.s., with 2,675 f.p.e. Both loads, without wiping the bore, have still proved capable of keeping some groups inside of an inch. My best hundred yard group with the 300-grain bullet has been an astounding 5/8-inch three-shot cluster.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>CLEANING</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>fouling has been relatively easy to get out of the bore, using nothing more than water. In fact, on one management doe hunt, I cleaned my rifle every evening with just saliva-dampened patches. And on that hunt, I took 11 does in 5 days. However, like quite a few shooters, I have never been all that crazy about cleaning the bore of a tack-driving rifle with water or water-based soapy solutions.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Truth is, you do not want to use water or water-based soapy solution to clean out what little </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> fouling that's left in the bore. It tends to turn the fouling to a sticky surface in the bore. Instead, to clean away this fouling, it takes just one or two patches dampened with a modern bore solvent, such as good ol' Hoppe's No. 9. (Western Powders has also developed one of its "Montana Extreme" cleaning solvents expressly for </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209.</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>) With </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span> <span style="color: #000000"><strong>powder, some shooters (including your's truly) have experienced difficulties getting stuck breech plugs out of rifles. Thanks to the non-building tendencies of </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>fouling, with just a light coat of grease type lubricant on the threads of a breech plug, that problem could be a thing of the past.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><img src="http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Both powders are non-corrosive. However, Hodgdon Powder Company warns that </strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Triple Seven</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong> fouling does tend to draw moisture if left in the bore or on other metal surfaces for any length of time. During my testing last fall, I hunted several months with the same rifle and </strong></span>]<span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>Blackhorn 209</em></strong></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>, not cleaning the rifle once - even though the muzzleloader was fired a hundred or more times during that period. When I did tear it down for cleaning, the breech plug came right out...and the bore was wiped spotless with two modern solvent dampened patches. In short, the rifle cleaned up in basically the same time it takes to clean the same rifle after a single afternoon at the range.</strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="C.E.G2860, post: 275640, member: 14779"] [COLOR=#000000][B]VELOCITY & ENERGY [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG]Compared to earlier black powder substitutes, like Hodgdon's older [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Pyrodex[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B], both [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] and [/B][/COLOR]][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] are extremely energetic powders.[/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG]Shooting last fall with my favorite .50 caliber Knight DISC Extreme revealed that with a 100-grain volume- measured charge of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Pyrodex[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] "RS Select", the powder would get a saboted 260-grain Harvester Muzzleloading [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]"Scoprion PT Gold"[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] out of the muzzle (26" barrel) at 1,656 f.p.s. - which is about the same as when shooting the same amount of FFFg black powder. The same rifle and bullet gave 1,944 f.p.s. with a 100-grain volume-measured charge of FFFg[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I] Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]... and 1,968 f.p.s. with the same volume-measured amount of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]. In comparison, the [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] load generates 2,236 f.p.e., while the [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]load is good for 2,179 f.p.e. [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]Upping the powder charge to 110 grains of each powder pushes the [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] velocity to 2,018 f.p.s. (with 2,353 f.p.e.) and the [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] velocity to 2,039 f.p.s. (with 2,400 f.p.e.). Note: These are all volume-measured charges. By actual weight, a 100-grain volume-measured charge of either [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] will be right at 70 grains. [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]BORE FOULING [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]One of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209's[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]most outstanding traits is that the bore does not have to be wiped between shots to maintain excellent accuracy. In fact, with some saboted bullets, I find that my .50 caliber Knight rifle, which came with a premium quality Green Mountain barrel as standard equipment, gives its very best accuracy when the bore IS NOT WIPED between shots. The fouling left behind is extremely light, and does not build with successive shooting. In one shooting test, I actually shot all afternoon, putting 50 shots through one [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]not-so-big hole[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] at 100 yards. All 50 of the 300-grain Harvester Muzzleloading saboted [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]"Scorpion PT Gold"[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]bullets printed inside of 1 3/4 inches. And the bore was not wiped once. Anyone who has shot with[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven [/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]charges will attest that shooters must wipe the bore between shots to maintain accuracy. I've found that in a tight hunting situation, I can get in a reload and second shot with[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven [/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]without wiping the bore. But a third shot is always off the mark by several inches...and a fourth shot is totally out of the question.[/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG](Note: When using standard strength No. 209 shot-shell primers for ignition, charges of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] tend to leave a hard, cursty ring in the bore, just about where the saboted bullet seats over the powder chaerge..This [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]"crud[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]ring"[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B], as shooters have come to call it, prevents the shooter from seating the projectile in the exact same spot shot after shot - unless time in taken to thoroughly wipe the bore. In worse cases, this ring has also seized the jag and cleaning patch...requiring the breech plug to be removed and often the use of a second rod to tap out the stuck ramrod/loading rod. The use of special Winchester [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] or Remington Kleanbore ML 209 primers, which retail for about twice that of standard 209 shot-shell primers, help eliminate this problem.) [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]ACCURACY [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG]The shooter who does take the minute or so required to wipe fouling (and the crud ring) from the bore will find [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven [/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]to produce some outstanding accuracy. In fact, for several years, the powder was the only propellant [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]would use on a hunt,[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]and it has produced some of the finest groups I've ever shot with muzzle-loaded rifles. I'm now getting that same kind of accuracy with[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] without having to wipe the bore. [/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]The load I hunted with last fall consisted of 110-grains of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] and the 300-grain[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]"Scorpion PT Gold"[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] bullet. For ignition, I relied exclusively on the standard Winchester 209A primer, which sells for about half of what the special [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven [/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]Primers go for, and my Knight DISC Extreme (Long Range Hunter model) would consistently keep shots inside of 1 1/4 inches at 100 yards. On a few really good days, the rifle and I punched a few very impressive 1/2- to 3/4-inch groups. This heavier version of the Harvester Muzzleloading saboted polymer-tipped spire-point, pushed by 110-grains of the new powder is good for 1,945 f.p.s., with 2,521 f.p.e. Out at 200 yards, where some pre-season shooting revealed the rifle and bullet would keep five shots at 2 1/2 to 3 inches, the load plows home with 1,329 foot-pounds of retained energy. Several deer taken with the load at 150 to 185 yards were put down within 20 yards of being hit with 1,500 to 1,600 foot-pounds of retained energy.[/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG]To insure precise shot placement, the rifle I hunted with was topped with one of the multi-reticle Leatherwood/Hi-Lux [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]HPML[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]scopes that I helped develop, mostly shooting these same Harvester Muzzleloading bullets.[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]More recently, on my new test range just outside of Missoula, MT, I have taken my volume-measured [/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B] charges up to 120-grains. According to the folks at Western Powders, the pressures created by this amount of powder behind the 300-grain bullet are still less than with the so-called 150-grain charges of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven Pellets[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]. The load gives me 2,030 f.p.s., compared to just 1,918 f.p.s. with three 50-grain[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven Pellets[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]. The [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]load is good for 2,826 f.p.e., while the [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven Pellet[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] load generates 2,448 f.p.e. The lighter 260-grain [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]"Scorpion PT Gold",[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] propelled by 120-grains of [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B], gets out of the 26" Green Mountain barrel at 2,153 f.p.s., with 2,675 f.p.e. Both loads, without wiping the bore, have still proved capable of keeping some groups inside of an inch. My best hundred yard group with the 300-grain bullet has been an astounding 5/8-inch three-shot cluster.[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]CLEANING[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]fouling has been relatively easy to get out of the bore, using nothing more than water. In fact, on one management doe hunt, I cleaned my rifle every evening with just saliva-dampened patches. And on that hunt, I took 11 does in 5 days. However, like quite a few shooters, I have never been all that crazy about cleaning the bore of a tack-driving rifle with water or water-based soapy solutions.[/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]Truth is, you do not want to use water or water-based soapy solution to clean out what little [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] fouling that's left in the bore. It tends to turn the fouling to a sticky surface in the bore. Instead, to clean away this fouling, it takes just one or two patches dampened with a modern bore solvent, such as good ol' Hoppe's No. 9. (Western Powders has also developed one of its "Montana Extreme" cleaning solvents expressly for [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209.[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]) With [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]powder, some shooters (including your's truly) have experienced difficulties getting stuck breech plugs out of rifles. Thanks to the non-building tendencies of [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]fouling, with just a light coat of grease type lubricant on the threads of a breech plug, that problem could be a thing of the past.[/B] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][IMG]http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/tp.gif[/IMG]Both powders are non-corrosive. However, Hodgdon Powder Company warns that [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Triple Seven[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B] fouling does tend to draw moisture if left in the bore or on other metal surfaces for any length of time. During my testing last fall, I hunted several months with the same rifle and [/B][/COLOR]][COLOR=#000000][B][I]Blackhorn 209[/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B], not cleaning the rifle once - even though the muzzleloader was fired a hundred or more times during that period. When I did tear it down for cleaning, the breech plug came right out...and the bore was wiped spotless with two modern solvent dampened patches. In short, the rifle cleaned up in basically the same time it takes to clean the same rifle after a single afternoon at the range.[/B][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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