Bipod broke my stock!!! Ever seen this?

Bret GRAVELINE Graveline

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LOL. I just realized that my rifles were all manufactured before commercial rifle bipods were sold (Wikipedia: Harris Engineering patent - 1979). So I know the manuals did not say I could or could not mod them for a bipod.
As to the Harris bipod, I was 14 when I shot my first coyote while I was deer hunting, the range was about 375 yds, only luck would have killed that coyote without it, that was in 1973 so they have been around a bit longer, I set it aside shortly after made the rifle heavier threw off the balance it did not point as well and made to much noise in the brush,
 

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They think you will shoot the ultralight rifle off hand, bags, backpack or some other rest. When I think ultralight bi-pods aren’t a consideration. Adding a bi-pod I think wasn’t the death nail of warranty. It was drilling into the stock to make the picatiny rail mount.
He definitely should have realized, when nothing but foam pieces started coming out from his drill bit, there wasn't any structural integrity of where he was placing the screw.
 

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I appreciate the OP sharing this as well as that he went back and read the manual and confirmed that it did not warn anyone not to do this. Any company selling a rifle designed for 'backcountry' use in places like the Rockies ought to expect folks want to use a bipod and given that this one appears to have broken where the original sling stud would be found, this could have happened almost as easily if the stock did not have a pic rail installed. And anyone selling a rifle like this that has had a pretty good reputation for quality ought to have wanted to take care of this as it does not take many reported incidents for this to be a bigger problem. I know that my perception has previously been that folks have had very few issues with their products that would be an issue for me as well and that has been changed here.
I agree a hunting stock or 3-gun competition type stock should have been made stronger. However, he added a rail and another stud forward of the original sling stud and I'm sure placed the bipod on the far forward position of the new rail. This caused the original sling stud to be a fulcrum for the forward installed rail causing excessive stress on the original stud position and I'm sure is the cause of the failure. Installing the forward rail was like putting a pry bar in front of the original stud and we all know what happens when you try to pry something with too much force -- it breaks (not brakes).
 
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Bret GRAVELINE Graveline

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the concept behind a ultra light rifle is to remove weight not add to it, Brown precision makes a ultra light stock called the pounder, it's all Kevlar and extremely tough, I think they would mold a rail mount into the stock if one asked for it, I'm not sure you can break that stock without trying, graphite adds stiffness but not strength.
 

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If you want to send me the stock I will repair it for you. I've been a custom stock make for nearly 50 years and do a lot of repair work. I don't know where you're located but PM me for details if your interested. Here is a pic of a Maple stock I repaired this spring. It's one of my own but a friend used it last fall, leaned it against his truck then drove off and ran over it breaking it in three places. When I was finished, even though the repair shows, the barreled action dropped right back into it. Let me know.View attachment 201350
That’s one beautiful stock
 

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There is a bigger issue here.
The clear lack of documentation to tell users not to attach bipeds.
Then the other issue I see if I fit a sling i dont only use it to carry a rifle. I use it to stabalise the rifle for a shot, that can place a lot of tension on the sling stud and by the looks of this stock there was no support for that stud.

I believe they should replace it.

I was asked to install rails to Fierce rifles if you want light with expander foam as the filler they are the stocks. We told the customer that if they break that its his liability and he accepted that.
 

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Well Folks,

I got a phone call from Cooper this evening about this issue and apparently they've been discussing it and have decided that they would like to demonstrate excellent customer service and replace this stock for me at no cost despite my voiding the warranty by modification/misuse etc.

I was, of course instructed to only shoot off of bags, sticks, etc with the new stock...Something I will likely follow.

Thanks for making this post interesting. I certainly learned something from this event...and then learned quite a bit more from many of the replies here. I do solemnly swear to not put any holes or t-nuts into THIS replacement stock....(a promise I can't make for any other stock out there as everything can be improved on, right?)...Heck, I've got a pile of flush cups to some day add to many of my guns:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Wow, great result 😁

Your very lucky imo, go out & buy a lottery ticket ;)
 

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If you want to send me the stock I will repair it for you. I've been a custom stock make for nearly 50 years and do a lot of repair work. I don't know where you're located but PM me for details if your interested. Here is a pic of a Maple stock I repaired this spring. It's one of my own but a friend used it last fall, leaned it against his truck then drove off and ran over it breaking it in three places. When I was finished, even though the repair shows, the barreled action dropped right back into it. Let me know.View attachment 201350
Do you do wood work for shotguns too?
 

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That sucks. It looks like a very few layers of fabric. If it were mine, I'd scrape out the foam, lay in a few layers of CF/kevlar with epoxy, not polyester, and skip on down. Matching that paint will be impossible but there are lots of alternatives.
 

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