I would have to agree with Manitou1 About deer size and score. The biggest deer I have ever taken was over 200 by just a few pounds and scored 117and change. Maybe the sizes run a bit higher in farther north part of the state. it does seem like here in central Missouri the deer quality has improved as far as antlers go but monster body size is very rare. I know I will probably catch it for saying this but my brother and have shot 243 for over 15 yrs. and in that time never lost a deer and only a few went out of sight before expiring. 87 gr. hunting vld berger bullets only thing used. Not many exits but looked like a bomb went off in chest cavity.