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<blockquote data-quote="johnnyk" data-source="post: 268883" data-attributes="member: 307"><p>Since 96 I have owned several variations of the Sendero excluding the newer SF II. I am not gonna pay that much for that rifle because the quality hasn't been commensurate. If it has gone up at all. I owned two of the original models (7mmRM/.300WM) and one of the SF models(.25-06Rem). In addition, I owned two of the older BDL Varmint Special (.22-250/.243) and VS (.22-250). I paid between $475 and $600 for all these rifles. They all shot great and sub 1/2" but the first Sendero (7Mag - $475.00) was the most accurate, with 1/4" groups the norm. The extractor broke after 1200+ rounds and the barrel was shot out. I traded it and $100 boot for a 700P in 7Mag that I now own and it shoots great. Good glass and trigger adjustment was all that was ever needed to get decent accuracy.</p><p> During this same time I have owned 3 Savages; two 110FP's (7Mag/.223Rem) and currently a 112BVSS (.300WM). The first two got Timney triggers and the 112 has a Rifle Basix. Nothing but good glass needed to get them to shoot. Sub 1/2" was/is now the norm and the .223 shot 1/4" and LESS! I paid $350-500.00.</p><p> I have also owned two Winchester 70's. The first was a sporter weight .30-06 with synthetic stock. Other than a NEF (.243) it was, accuracy wise, the poorest shooting rifle I have ever owned. It was given to me (with a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10X40) so I gave it back to the previous owner. I now own a Win70 Heavy Varmint Barrel (HVB) in .243 Win and it is superbly accurate! I did nothing to it except clean the barrel and mounted a Nikon Monarch UCC 6.5-20. It cost me $500. The trigger breaks crisply at 2lbs. Best factory trigger I have ever experienced.</p><p> My point; a used rifle in good condition is the frugal way to go. You have to do some homework though. Look at the Blue Book value. Is it worth it? What is the condition of it? Get the previous owner's name/number and call him/her. Find out what he/she used it for (hunting/targets), what they shot in it (bulet weight(s), and how many (2 boxes/1500rds). Ask why they got rid of it. Yeah, you're taking a chance but so are you with a brand new rifle and with MORE of your money. JohnnyK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnnyk, post: 268883, member: 307"] Since 96 I have owned several variations of the Sendero excluding the newer SF II. I am not gonna pay that much for that rifle because the quality hasn't been commensurate. If it has gone up at all. I owned two of the original models (7mmRM/.300WM) and one of the SF models(.25-06Rem). In addition, I owned two of the older BDL Varmint Special (.22-250/.243) and VS (.22-250). I paid between $475 and $600 for all these rifles. They all shot great and sub 1/2" but the first Sendero (7Mag - $475.00) was the most accurate, with 1/4" groups the norm. The extractor broke after 1200+ rounds and the barrel was shot out. I traded it and $100 boot for a 700P in 7Mag that I now own and it shoots great. Good glass and trigger adjustment was all that was ever needed to get decent accuracy. During this same time I have owned 3 Savages; two 110FP's (7Mag/.223Rem) and currently a 112BVSS (.300WM). The first two got Timney triggers and the 112 has a Rifle Basix. Nothing but good glass needed to get them to shoot. Sub 1/2" was/is now the norm and the .223 shot 1/4" and LESS! I paid $350-500.00. I have also owned two Winchester 70's. The first was a sporter weight .30-06 with synthetic stock. Other than a NEF (.243) it was, accuracy wise, the poorest shooting rifle I have ever owned. It was given to me (with a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10X40) so I gave it back to the previous owner. I now own a Win70 Heavy Varmint Barrel (HVB) in .243 Win and it is superbly accurate! I did nothing to it except clean the barrel and mounted a Nikon Monarch UCC 6.5-20. It cost me $500. The trigger breaks crisply at 2lbs. Best factory trigger I have ever experienced. My point; a used rifle in good condition is the frugal way to go. You have to do some homework though. Look at the Blue Book value. Is it worth it? What is the condition of it? Get the previous owner's name/number and call him/her. Find out what he/she used it for (hunting/targets), what they shot in it (bulet weight(s), and how many (2 boxes/1500rds). Ask why they got rid of it. Yeah, you're taking a chance but so are you with a brand new rifle and with MORE of your money. JohnnyK. [/QUOTE]
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