Best Pre-fit Savage barrel? Better than Shilen Super select?

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by raider1v1, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. raider1v1

    raider1v1 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2004
    I know this can open a can of worms, but other than Shilen i havent ever used anything for a savage prefit and was interested in what other premium manufactures are out there.

    for reference, i easily get 1/2 MOA on the Shilens Super Select Match barrels.
  2. Barrelnut

    Barrelnut Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2013
    BugHoles will do a cut rifled barrel like Bartlein for you. And they have a barrel nut they call the BugNut. About all I can think of one might consider other than a Shilen.

    I have a Shilen and like it a lot, but would like to talk to BugHoles someday.
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  3. wbm

    wbm Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2008
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  4. tinkerer

    tinkerer Well-Known Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    I vote for McGowen.

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  5. newmexkid

    newmexkid Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    My latest pre fit is a SSSM from Pac Nor. It has been a shooter from day one. I'm not bound by brand loyalty but, I'd have to have a real good reason to not get my 5th Pac Nor barrel. I don't know if I caught them at a good time or not but, I had my barrel in less then 2 months.
  6. Dgd6mm

    Dgd6mm Well-Known Member

    Jul 14, 2008
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  7. Backcountry_IDN

    Backcountry_IDN Well-Known Member

    Jun 11, 2018
    Have 2 xcaliber barrels. One on a savage action for my .300wm and shoots right around 1/2 with factory ammo. The other barrel I have on a tikka action in 6.5-284 shoots .62. I think I can get better grouping out of it. Going to switch to a different powder to see so.
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  8. Kimber.204

    Kimber.204 Active Member

    Sep 5, 2017
    I have a Kreiger that a smith turned for me as a Savage Pre-fit in 6mm Comp Match, as well as 3 savage "Take Off" barrels that were bought used. Fitted to a Bighorn TL3 in a JAE-700 chassis, they all shoot 0.5moa or better. The take-off barrels were all purchased for around $100-$200. They aren't premium, but they work on my 300 yard range just fine. When I need a new one I will probably have Keystone Accuracy make one for me - He'll do either Green Mountain button rifled barrels or Kreiger cut rifled barrels.
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  9. Tidus56

    Tidus56 Well-Known Member

    Feb 1, 2018
    I have 4 X calibers, 3 McGowan’s and 2 shillen barrels. The very best shooting one I own is a McGowan that likes to shoot very small groups. But overall across all barrels my X-calibers made by Apache Gunworks have been the best.
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  10. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2008
    I have found the accuracy and workmanship of the Criterion Pre-fit to be excellent. My 6.5x47 Lapua on a Savage LRP action
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  11. JackinSD

    JackinSD Well-Known Member

    Jan 6, 2012
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  12. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    You gotta love 'em Made in Montana barrels. ;):cool::D
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  13. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    I am not a big fan of pre-fit barrels for many reasons. They can be good or they can be bad. If you get a good one then you are lucky, If you get a not so good one you haven't saved any money and get what you get. Pre fit barrels are mass produced and do not have any allowances for discrepancies that may be present in your action. Things that a good smith can anticipate.

    Pre fit barrels are a lot like stocks that don't need bedding and are advertised as drop in. (One size fits all) There is more to installing a pre fit barrel than head spacing it. Not knocking the pre fit barrel makers just the concept of them trying to get proper thread fit, alignment to your action, proper torque, ETC.

    By the time you buy a pre fit barrel, you have paid for a barrel, gun smithing, and you need proper tools to install correctly and buy this time you have spent almost as much as you would have buy using a smith, without the advantage of experience and expertise furnished buy the smith.

    There are many top quality barrel makers that sell there premium barrel blanks for much less than most pre fits. of the many pre fits that I have repaired, None used the top quality barrels because of the price of the pre fit. This is especially true in the AR platform. when you can buy a complete upper for less than $400.00 how can they use a $400.00 dollar
    barrel. (They don't).

    Like everything else, you get what you pay for. recommendations normally come from those that have had good luck with a particular brand, but not from those that have not had good luck and probably quietly sold there pre fits and road of into the sunset licking there wounds and absorbing there loses.

    I know it sounds negative but it is just a warning that you get what you pay for.

    Just my opinion

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  14. newmexkid

    newmexkid Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    My last 2 barrels have been pre fit barrels and I couldn't be happier(?) Both are super easy to clean and shoot under 1/2" at 100 yards. I not really sure about your statement that all pre fits are massed produced. When I ordered my first pre fit I asked if it was in stock. I was told they didn't turn it until it was ordered. I have learned a ton in doing my pre fits and satisfaction level is high. Of course, as you say, I've maybe have been lucky in getting good barrels.
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