Best bullets to load subsonic for 300blackout

Kyle Overman

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Berrys makes great plated lead bullets for blaster ammo - but for expansion the Makers are still much better, I wouldn't shoot a Berrys into an animal.

But I do shoot the heck out of Berrys in 300 BLK into targets through, at about 1/3rd of the cost of Makers they're what I use for else other than animals - I've made 500 yard subsonic hits with them, and I prefer them over the 109 Sub-X and 220 SMK.
Do you have any Load data for the berry’s bullets?
 

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Are these the bullets from berry’s?
That's them. Plated lead, in theory at their hardness (or rather softness) they will deform somewhat on impact, but nothing compared to the Rex bullets that expand and cut.

If I Recall Correctly

Do you have any Load data for the berry's bullets?
16" Bolt: No Berry's here but the 220 SMK is similar:

BrandModelWeightPrimerPowderChargeCOLFPS Act
SierraHPBT220R7.5Lil'Gun
8.5​
2.230​
1002
SierraHPBT220R7.5H110
9.4​
2.230​
1008
SierraHPBT220R7.5Blackout
11.6​
2.230​
1064
SierraHPBT175R7.5Lil'Gun
14.1​
2.230​
1777
HornadySub-X190R7.5Lil'Gun
8.5​
2.073​
1102
HornadySub-X190R7.5H110
9.4​
2.073​
1062
HornadySub-X190R7.5IMR 4227
10.2​
2.073​
1027
HornadySub-X190R7.5Blackout
11.6​
2.073​
1036
MakersT-Rex200R7.5Lil'Gun
7.8​
2.100​
1005



9" BCM:
BrandModelWeightPrimerPowderChargeCOLFPS Act
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.2
2.230​
994
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.5
2.230​
957
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.8
2.230​
981

These were generally accuracy loads, velocity was secondary so long as they stayed subsonic, other than the one intentionally supersonic load. To my ear Lil'Gun is the quietest of these powders.
 
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Kyle Overman

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That's them. Plated lead, in theory at their hardness (or rather softness) they will deform somewhat on impact, but nothing compared to the Rex bullets that expand and cut.


If I Recall Correctly


16" Bolt: No Berry's here but the 220 SMK is similar:

BrandModelWeightPrimerPowderChargeCOLFPS Act
SierraHPBT220R7.5Lil'Gun
8.5​
2.230​
1002
SierraHPBT220R7.5H110
9.4​
2.230​
1008
SierraHPBT220R7.5Blackout
11.6​
2.230​
1064
SierraHPBT175R7.5Lil'Gun
14.1​
2.230​
1777
HornadySub-X190R7.5Lil'Gun
8.5​
2.073​
1102
HornadySub-X190R7.5H110
9.4​
2.073​
1062
HornadySub-X190R7.5IMR 4227
10.2​
2.073​
1027
HornadySub-X190R7.5Blackout
11.6​
2.073​
1036
MakersT-Rex200R7.5Lil'Gun
7.8​
2.100​
1005



9" BCM:
BrandModelWeightPrimerPowderChargeCOLFPS Act
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.2
2.230​
994
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.5
2.230​
957
BerrysSpire Point220Fed-SARA168011.8
2.230​
981

These were generally accuracy loads, velocity was secondary so long as they stayed subsonic, other than the one intentionally supersonic load. To my ear Lil'Gun is the quietest of these powders.
Do you have load data using lil gun powder out of a 16” bolt action or know where to find it?
 

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I have used a butt load of Lehigh bullets for years and had great success but unfortunately They sold and have now priced themselves out of the market. I will now be redoing load development for several rifles. I use 220 gr SMK for 300 blk sub.
 

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Do you have load data using lil gun powder out of a 16” bolt action or know where to find it?
It's in the chart, 8.5gn for a 220 to 1002FPS. You should start higher and work down a ladder - starting point would be ~11gn and work down.

If you mean in general, via Hodgdon:

Plug in the cartridge you want, select Lil'Gun, it'll list all the info for that cartridge out by bullet weight.
 
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