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Berger 338 300 gr OTM tip/cavity
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<blockquote data-quote="toddc" data-source="post: 732108" data-attributes="member: 4566"><p>Elmer Keith woulda just shook his head and laughed at all of this. Bergers/smk/amax are TARGET BULLETS. Therefore ....thin jackets and no expansion control. If you use a long for caliber projectile they will work like a charm. Before bondage we all looked at sd as a indicator of expansion/retention/penetration. Barnes and other bullet makers have sucessfully minimized the role sd plays in killing stuff.</p><p>The problem with this is when you go back to a traditional style bullet and forget what effect sd has on performance. </p><p>Same thing on this expansion controversy. Shoot a thin jacket into something and it will expand with enough velocity. </p><p>We as hunters have been too caught up in SOOOOPER BOOOOOLITS.</p><p>Shoot a long for caliber target bullet into an animal and it will wreck stuff. Shoot a 110gr .308 and it wont. </p><p>SD is the end all of non bonded/partitioned performance and as Broz said the pencil issue isnt a big deal with a thin jacket closed tip or not.</p><p>I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the stuff I see on forums about bullets is directly related to not understanding SD and traditional bullet performance. Im guessin a lot of guys dont remember when a premium bullet was a core-lokt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toddc, post: 732108, member: 4566"] Elmer Keith woulda just shook his head and laughed at all of this. Bergers/smk/amax are TARGET BULLETS. Therefore ....thin jackets and no expansion control. If you use a long for caliber projectile they will work like a charm. Before bondage we all looked at sd as a indicator of expansion/retention/penetration. Barnes and other bullet makers have sucessfully minimized the role sd plays in killing stuff. The problem with this is when you go back to a traditional style bullet and forget what effect sd has on performance. Same thing on this expansion controversy. Shoot a thin jacket into something and it will expand with enough velocity. We as hunters have been too caught up in SOOOOPER BOOOOOLITS. Shoot a long for caliber target bullet into an animal and it will wreck stuff. Shoot a 110gr .308 and it wont. SD is the end all of non bonded/partitioned performance and as Broz said the pencil issue isnt a big deal with a thin jacket closed tip or not. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the stuff I see on forums about bullets is directly related to not understanding SD and traditional bullet performance. Im guessin a lot of guys dont remember when a premium bullet was a core-lokt. [/QUOTE]
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