This is not a "I have to get these bullets to work" situation. We have the bullets and wanted to see if they would stabilize in the 1:8 twist barrel, since that is what Barnes recommends. They were originally bought 2-3 years ago for a Rem 700 LR because he didn't know any better. After he bought the new rifle and I worked up a couple loads for him for it with different bullets and they shot fine he realized just last year, after buying a 30 Nosler in same rifle, that the rifling is a 1:8. So I suggested that we could use the Barnes bullets that were just laying around. Might try a slightly faster powder as well as more 7828 to get the velocity up closer to 3K. We have shot Hornady 162 eldx for a while and now are on 168ABLR in this rifle which are/were both shooting @3k. I'm sure the rifle will handle higher velocity without issue.