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<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Geschätzter Cw-Wert, BC und Stabilität, Standard ICAO Amosphäre, Meereshöhe
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Möller KWJG Cal. 7.620 mm (.308), 11.0 g 169.75 grain
Ballistischer Koeffizient für die Luftwiderstandsfunktion G1
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Geschwindigkeit Lufwiderstandsbei- Drehzahl, gyro. Maximale Drall-
wert, Formfaktor Stabilität länge
und BC Drall 32,5 Kal. für s = 1.3
Mach m/s fps Cw i BC UPM s Kal. in. mm
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0,441 150 492 0,066 0,321 0,796 35433 0,81 25,7 7,9 201
0,514 175 574 0,064 0,322 0,794 41339 0,80 25,4 7,8 199
0,588 200 656 0,064 0,320 0,800 47244 0,78 25,1 7,7 196
0,661 225 738 0,064 0,310 0,825 53150 0,75 24,6 7,6 193
0,735 250 820 0,064 0,288 0,888 59055 0,71 24,0 7,4 187
0,808 275 902 0,065 0,254 1,007 64961 0,65 22,9 7,1 179
0,882 300 984 0,073 0,230 1,112 70866 0,55 21,2 6,5 166
<font color="red">0,955 325 1066 0,147 0,357 0,717 76772 0,37 17,4 5,3 136
1,000 340 1116 0,367 0,776 0,330 80384 0,47 19,6 6,0 153
1,102 375 1230 0,131 0,225 1,135 88583 0,56 21,2 6,5 166</font>
1,175 400 1312 0,299 0,482 0,531 94488 0,65 22,9 7,0 179
1,763 600 1969 0,291 0,471 0,543 141732 1,03 28,9 8,9 226
2,351 800 2625 0,240 0,440 0,581 188976 1,17 30,8 9,5 241
<font color="green">2,939 1000 3281 0,204 0,402 0,637 236220 1,25 31,8 9,8 249</font>
3,526 1200 3937 0,178 0,358 0,715 283465 1,29 32,4 10,0 253
4,114 1400 4593 0,157 0,319 0,801 330709 1,33 32,8 10,1 257
4,702 1600 5249 0,142 0,288 0,889 377953 1,35 33,1 10,2 259
5,290 1800 5906 0,129 0,263 0,974 425197 1,38 33,4 10,3 261
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This was sent to me by a gentelmen whos name is Lutz Moeller.. He is a ballastician and has phd's and all that stuff required of someone who has published works in the scientific world.
One thing I found very interesting was how the bc changed as the speed changed, I knew it did that but not to the degree that it has changed in the above chart. It is also interesting to note that at 1116 fps roughly the speed of sound you can see a dramatic decrease in BC and this is where your transonic stage is. I heard folks talking about this and knew it to be true but here is first hand how drastic the change is and why stability suffers greatly when entering this transonic stage.
It was surprising to me that at 984 fps the BC was 1.112 exteremely high and subsonic which shows the relationship. I suppose this is why the 30 Whisper is so effective as a subsonic cartridge. Here is the bullet in question
One really neat thing was the transition from sub to super and the bc at that point in time.
This is all mathematical of course but the information contains some very interesting data which is very close I guess being his background and all. You can find trajectory programs on his site too.
Notice where the bc is for fps that most of the big mangums are capable of firing at(in green).
Notice also that the G function is a G1. Youd have to email this guy to understand what hes all about. When he called me a lot of what he was talking about went completely over my head and was no doubt a intelletual of genius proportions.
Leave it to the Germans for such work.
Well this was not intended to stir any pots just some really neat work by a very friendly guy who by the way also sent me free from Germany the above bullet about 50 or so they are all pulled military bullets ande the tips are a little messed up. Nothing a metplat trimmer wont clean up.
I am not intending to start anything here just thought yall might like to see some work from a ballistician.
Dave
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Möller KWJG Cal. 7.620 mm (.308), 11.0 g 169.75 grain
Ballistischer Koeffizient für die Luftwiderstandsfunktion G1
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Geschwindigkeit Lufwiderstandsbei- Drehzahl, gyro. Maximale Drall-
wert, Formfaktor Stabilität länge
und BC Drall 32,5 Kal. für s = 1.3
Mach m/s fps Cw i BC UPM s Kal. in. mm
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0,441 150 492 0,066 0,321 0,796 35433 0,81 25,7 7,9 201
0,514 175 574 0,064 0,322 0,794 41339 0,80 25,4 7,8 199
0,588 200 656 0,064 0,320 0,800 47244 0,78 25,1 7,7 196
0,661 225 738 0,064 0,310 0,825 53150 0,75 24,6 7,6 193
0,735 250 820 0,064 0,288 0,888 59055 0,71 24,0 7,4 187
0,808 275 902 0,065 0,254 1,007 64961 0,65 22,9 7,1 179
0,882 300 984 0,073 0,230 1,112 70866 0,55 21,2 6,5 166
<font color="red">0,955 325 1066 0,147 0,357 0,717 76772 0,37 17,4 5,3 136
1,000 340 1116 0,367 0,776 0,330 80384 0,47 19,6 6,0 153
1,102 375 1230 0,131 0,225 1,135 88583 0,56 21,2 6,5 166</font>
1,175 400 1312 0,299 0,482 0,531 94488 0,65 22,9 7,0 179
1,763 600 1969 0,291 0,471 0,543 141732 1,03 28,9 8,9 226
2,351 800 2625 0,240 0,440 0,581 188976 1,17 30,8 9,5 241
<font color="green">2,939 1000 3281 0,204 0,402 0,637 236220 1,25 31,8 9,8 249</font>
3,526 1200 3937 0,178 0,358 0,715 283465 1,29 32,4 10,0 253
4,114 1400 4593 0,157 0,319 0,801 330709 1,33 32,8 10,1 257
4,702 1600 5249 0,142 0,288 0,889 377953 1,35 33,1 10,2 259
5,290 1800 5906 0,129 0,263 0,974 425197 1,38 33,4 10,3 261
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</pre><hr />
This was sent to me by a gentelmen whos name is Lutz Moeller.. He is a ballastician and has phd's and all that stuff required of someone who has published works in the scientific world.
One thing I found very interesting was how the bc changed as the speed changed, I knew it did that but not to the degree that it has changed in the above chart. It is also interesting to note that at 1116 fps roughly the speed of sound you can see a dramatic decrease in BC and this is where your transonic stage is. I heard folks talking about this and knew it to be true but here is first hand how drastic the change is and why stability suffers greatly when entering this transonic stage.
It was surprising to me that at 984 fps the BC was 1.112 exteremely high and subsonic which shows the relationship. I suppose this is why the 30 Whisper is so effective as a subsonic cartridge. Here is the bullet in question
One really neat thing was the transition from sub to super and the bc at that point in time.
This is all mathematical of course but the information contains some very interesting data which is very close I guess being his background and all. You can find trajectory programs on his site too.
Notice where the bc is for fps that most of the big mangums are capable of firing at(in green).
Notice also that the G function is a G1. Youd have to email this guy to understand what hes all about. When he called me a lot of what he was talking about went completely over my head and was no doubt a intelletual of genius proportions.
Leave it to the Germans for such work.
Well this was not intended to stir any pots just some really neat work by a very friendly guy who by the way also sent me free from Germany the above bullet about 50 or so they are all pulled military bullets ande the tips are a little messed up. Nothing a metplat trimmer wont clean up.
I am not intending to start anything here just thought yall might like to see some work from a ballistician.
Dave
