ammo test through a mkii

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PART 1 - 22 AMMO THRU MKII 50 YARDS

I'm using 50 yards as a starting pooint as most folks shoot at that distance, and because it's a good starting zero.

Set up used: firearm : Savage mkII 20" free floated bull barrel 1-16 twist, 1lb. trigger, lam. Stock, 20 moa base., scope on 20x, 50 yd zero. Less than 3 mph wind, shot at 1" circle. From harris bipod and rear bag from bench, crony at 10 ft. from muzzle. 26degree (f) avg air temp. shot at 50 and 100 yards. Ammo tested was readily available and $ paid locally, sub or near sub sonic match/target type. Barrel dry swabbed b-4 each group, clean barrel groups b-4 each shot. 30 seconds between each shot. B.C.'s not found on each, range between .114 to .144 (g-1 g-7) drag models.

How groups were measured - MG = major grp (excluding flyers) EG = ext. grp (including flyers), Flyer Ratio FR = #of flyers per rnds. shot. Did it with clean and dirty barrel groups.
Came up with rating system to suit ammo with different shooting styles. Took (5 shots) Clean Barrel Rating "CBR"=MG+EG+flyers divided by 3. Dirty Barrel Rating (10 shots) "DBR"= MG+EG+flyers divided by 3, Consistency Rating "CR"= MG+EG+flyers of CBR and DBR divided by 6, Value Rating "VR" (bang for the $) adds price per round divided by 7, and overall rating "OAR"=CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Also came up with a multi yard rating, avg. performance at both distances. The lower the number, the better rating.

1. Aguila Golden Eagle Match-1035 fps - avg. grp. .75", c. barrel +.5"MG, +.75"EG, 1/5 FL, d. barrel +.25"MG, +.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR .75, DBR .58, CR .66, VR .58, FR 2/15 OAR .52 $.06, VERY good results for the price! leaves a clumpy residue, most shots where touching or in each other at 50 yds. slightly more flyers than the wolf, but flyers were not extreme (1/8" to 1/4" away)likes a dirty barrel better than clean.

2. Wolf Match Extra-1024 FPS 14 Dev. - avg. grp -1.25", c. barrel ..75"MG, 1"EG, 0/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .5, DBR 1, CR .75, VR .67, FR 1/15, OAR .730 $.20, pricey, dirty residue, low # flyers, 1 made it -1.25"

3. Wolf Match Target- 943 FPS 24 Dev. - avg. grp 1", c. barrel -.75MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, -1"EG, 0/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR .6, CR .79, VR .69, FR 1/15, OAR .749 $.14, dirty residue, low # flyers

4. Rem./Eley T Rifle - 1021 FPS 24Dev. - avg. grp -1", c. barrel -.5"MG, -1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1"EG 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR .91, CR 1.04, VR .92, FR 3/15, OAR 1.01 $.20, semi dirty residue, flyers killed it, highly lubricated

5. Rem. Sub Sonic- 947 FPS 46 Dev. - avg. grp 1.25", c. barrel .5"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel .75"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR 1, CR 1.08, VR .94, FR 3/15, OAR 1.04 $.08, dirty residue, good groups for price. 38gr h. point

6. Federal G Medal -1059 FPS 18 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel +.5"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, +1"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1, DBR 1, CR 1, VR .87, FR 2/15, OAR .968 $.10, clean shooting, nice flyer ratio, a decent neutral ammo, no complaints

7. CCI Green Tag - 988 FPS 31 Dev. - avg. grp -1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1" MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR 1.16, CR 1.04, VR .91, FR 2/15, OAR 1.07 $.14, semi clean, price held it back compared to above. 2 far out flyers.

8. Rem. Tar. 22 s. vel. - 1086 FPS 66 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.25, DBR 1.25, CR 1.25, VR 1.08, FR 3/15, OAR 1.20 $.08, clean shooting, not too good out of dirty barrel

9. Winc. S.X. T-22- 1056 FPS 50 Dev. - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/10 FR
CBR 1.08, DBR 1.5, CR 1.29, VR 1.11, FR 3/15, OAR 1.24 $.06, semi clean, decent economical ammo in c. barrel. Flyers killed grps.

(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)

Of the Rem. s.s., Fed. G.medal, and CCI g.t., at 50 yards very comparable, ranked the Rem's higher due to lower price. Point of impact POI perspective, Fed, Rem/Eley, CCI Wolf t.e. and targ. had close POI's. Winc. T-22 POI was completely on the other side of the bull. All of the ammo dropped between .25" and 1.5" from a 25 yard zero. Aguila Match was outstanding at 50yds, especially for the price, and would actually shoot important matches with it at 50.

ON TO PART 2 100 YARDS

PART 2 - 22 AMMO THRU MKII 100 YARDS

Set up used: firearm : Savage mkII 20" free floated bull barrel 1-16 twist, 1lb. trigger, lam. Stock, 20 moa base., scope on 20x, 50 yd zero. Less than 3 mph wind, shot at 1" circle. From harris bipod and rear bag from bench, crony at 10 ft. from muzzle. 26degree (f) avg air temp. shot at 50 and 100 yards. Ammo tested was readily available and $ paid locally, sub or near sub sonic match/target type. Barrel dry swabbed b-4 each group, clean barrel groups b-4 each shot. 30 seconds between each shot. B.C.'s not found on each, range between .114 to .144 (g-1 g-7) drag models.

How groups were measured - MG = major grp (excluding flyers) EG = ext. grp (including flyers), Flyer Ratio FR = #of flyers per rnds. shot. Did it with clean and dirty barrel groups.
Came up with own rating system suit ammo with different shooting styles. Took (5 shots) Clean Barrel Rating "CBR"=MG+EG+flyers divided by 3. Dirty Barrel Rating (10 shots) "DBR"= MG+EG+flyers divided by 3, Consistency Rating "CR"= MG+EG+flyers of CBR and DBR divided by 6, Value Rating "VR" (bang for the buck) adds price per round divided by 7, and overall rating "OAR"=CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Also came up with a multi yard rating, avg. performance at both distances. The lower the number, the better rating.
Some ammo faired well at 50 yds, fizzled at 100 and visa versa. Sometimes price isn't what it's cracked up to be either. FPS were noted in 50 yard test. Also included drop from 50 to 100 yards.

1. Wolf Match Target - avg. grp. -1.75", c. barrel 1"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1"MG, -1.75"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.08, DBR 1.25, CR 1.16, VR 1.02, FR 2/15, OAR 1.19 $.14, just bet the pricier Extra, tight groups, low flyers. Shot almost equally out of d or c barrels. 11.5" drop.

2. Wolf Match Extra - avg. grp. -2", c. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.75"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, -2"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.33, DBR 1.5, CR 1.42, VR 1.24, FR 2/15, OAR 1.37 $.20, lost some performance at 100, but still very good. Pricier than #1. 10.75" drop.

3. Federal Gold Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 1.83, CR 1.33, VR 1.44, FR 5/15, OAR 1.53 $.10, gained where others slipped, reliable ammo for the price 9.25" drop.

4. Aguila Golden Eagle Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel 1.75"MG, +1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR 1.83, DBR 1.25, CR 1.54, VR 1.33, FR 3/15, OAR 1.49 $.06, excellent ammo for the price, half or more of wolf and sk, fell just short of wolf / sk and federal on consistancy, but for the price will live with it. Definately the best value rating, and third in OAR. Likes a dirty barrel. Leaves a clumpy residue. 8.3" drop. great practice ammo, not too bad of a match ammo, an all around dual purpose economical ammo.

5. CCI Green Tag - avg. grp. +2.25", c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, +2.25"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 2.33, CR 1.92, VR 1.66, FR 4/15, OAR 1.85 $.14, stayed steady to 100yds, 1 or 2 flyers opened the group, pricier than fed. 11" drop.

6. Winc. Sup. X t-22 - avg. grp. +2.25" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.58, DBR 2.25, CR 1.92, VR 1.67, FR 4/15, OAR 1.86 $.06, not bad considering $, similar to CCI g.t. at more than half the $. 9" drop.

7. Rem./Eley Targ. Rif. - avg. grp. -2.5" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2" EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, -2.5"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.83, DBR 1.81, CR 2.13, VR 1.85, FR 5/15, OAR 1.91 $.20, expected much more for the $, reshot and same results. Heavy lube effecting grps? 10" drop

8. Rem. target 22 - avg. grp +3" c. barrel 1"MG, 3"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 2, DBR 2.75, CR 2.38, VR 2.05, FR 6/15, OAR 2.29 $.08, 10" drop

9. Rem. Sub Sonic- avg. grp ? groups were so erratic and open (over 4.5") no real data could be collected, took it out of 100 yd running. Big surprise as it performed exceptionally well at 50. $.08. reshot, same results.

(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)

Both Wolf ammos similar, slightly different POI, Rem./Eley had similar POI with Rem. targ 22. Winc T-22 was once again left to the bull. Overall rating (OAR) was more inline with avg. grp. size which at 50, didn't match up as well. Price per round at 100 seems you get what you pay for, excepting the Rem./Eley.
This led to me to ask which ammo does best including 50 and 100 yard performance, taking into account a broad spectrum of data over multiple ranges. So....ON TO PART 3 MULTI YARD RATINGS

PART 3 - 22 AMMO THRU MKII MULTI YARD

MULTI YARD RATING (MYR) - Rates ammo on best avg. performance at 50 and 100 yards using data taken and results. MYR/CBR = CBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/DBR = DBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/CR = CR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/VR = VR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/OAR = THE MYR'S CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Flyer Ratios are also for both ranges, 30 rds total each brand. Also took avg. grps. from 50+100 divided by 2 to give an average group between both ranges. The MYR would be extremely valuable for a silhoutte match where various ranges are shot through the match.

1. Wolf MatchTarget-MYR/CBR .995, MYR/DBR .925, MYR/CR .978, MYR/VR ..855, MYR/FR 3/30, MYR/OAR .938, avg. MYR grp -1.5"

2. Wolf Match Extra-MYR/CBR .915, MYR/DBR 1.25, MYR/CR 1.08, MYR/VR ..956, MYR/FR 3/30. MYR/OAR 1.22, avg. MYR grp -1.62"

3. Aguila Golden Eagle Match- MYR/CBR 1.29, MYR/DBR .915, MYR/CR 1.10, MRY/VR .955, MYR/FR 5/30, MYR/OAR 1.00, avg. MYR grp 1.13" (the suprisingly small groups shot at 50 yds and the price of the ammo helped it to reach 3rd in the multi yard rankings. the wolf was a bit more consistant on average at both ranges).

4. Federal G. Match-MYR/CBR 1.25, MYR/DBR 1.42, MYR/CR 1.17, MYR/VR 1.16, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.25, avg. MYR grp 1.62"

5. Rem/Eley T. Rif.- MYR/CBR 1.5, MYR/DBR 1.36, MYR/CR 1.58, MYR/VR ..925, MYR/FR 8/30, MYR/OAR 1.34, avg. MYR grp -2"

6. CCI Green Tag- MYR/CBR 1.21, MYR/DBR 1.75, MYR/CR 1.48, MYR/VR 1.29, MYR/FR 6/30, MYR/OAR 1.43, avg. MYR grp +1.88"

7. Winc. S.X.T-22-MYR/CBR 1.33, MYR/DBR 1.88, MYR/CR 1.60, MYR/VR 1.39, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.55, avg. MYR grp +2"

8. Rem. Target- MYR/CBR 1.63, MYR/DBR 2, MYR/CR 1.81, MYR/VR 1.56, MYR/FR 9/30, MYR/OAR 1.75, avg. MYR grp +2.25

9. Rem. Sub Sonic- open and erratic groups at 100 (over 4.5") could not be measured accurately or consistently.

(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)

When you look at the different #'s and categories throughout this series, you can judge an ammo that suits your type of shooting (cleaning barrel between shots - CBR and the size of groups), using a dirty barrel or sustained fire (DBR and the size of groups), the price / economy / value of an ammo vs. performance (VR), and how many flyers to expect, using an ammo at just 50, just 100, or both (MYR). Although these ratings are made up by me (as far as I know don't resemble anyone else's, if so I apologize), they do reflect the overall outcome of the ammo based on real world data.
I hope to test others in the future (Aquila, Lapua, etc.) as time, weather, and funds allow, and maybe a high velocity 22 test, but until then, this is what you can expect out of the ammo tested through a MKII.

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