Muleystalker, yes I do like mine and feel it is a good piece of glass. And you are correct about not being the best choice for packing or at least the meostar s2 hd that I have. Not sure what other models they make and how good they would be. But based on mine I feel like they do make a quality product. I have had the opportunity to look through kowa 883, Swarovski, vortex razor. But never side by side and I guess I feel that until you compare them under the same conditions it's not fair to say what is what. And then maybe as conditions change you would change your mind on which one had the edge. The one thing I will say about glass (scopes, binoculars, spotting scope) good quality is not cheap. Ouch think my wife just thumped me she must have noticed that glassey look in my eyes!!!!!