Action torque specs for two guns

[Bigeclipse]

Hey guys,
I am having a hard time finding info on torque specs for my browning x-bolt hunter in 300wsm and my 2013 remington mountain SS in 3006. The xbolt manual doesnt state anything....when i called browning about it, they had said 55 in/lbs but that seemed a bit high. I believe the x-bolts are bedded. I dont think they are pillar but I honestly dont know.

The remington manual gives a generic torque for ALL their 700 models, I believe it was 35in/lbs but I cant remember but this cant be right either since there are so many different 700 stocks, from hard/soft woods to cheap synthetic and expensive synthetic stocks like the one that came on my mountain rifle (bell/carlson) with aluminum bedding? also unsure if it is pillar? I know they are MY rifles and I should know them better than this but I recently just got into longer range shooting and never paid attention to torque specs and such before so this is all new to me. From what I read each rifle may be different so I guess what I am looking for is a starting point AND a MAX torque point for both. Id rather lose a bit of accuracy than torque to hard and hurt my rifle some how.

 

[WildRose]

Hey guys,
I am having a hard time finding info on torque specs for my browning x-bolt hunter in 300wsm and my 2013 remington mountain SS in 3006. The xbolt manual doesnt state anything....when i called browning about it, they had said 55 in/lbs but that seemed a bit high. I believe the x-bolts are bedded. I dont think they are pillar but I honestly dont know.

The remington manual gives a generic torque for ALL their 700 models, I believe it was 35in/lbs but I cant remember but this cant be right either since there are so many different 700 stocks, from hard/soft woods to cheap synthetic and expensive synthetic stocks like the one that came on my mountain rifle (bell/carlson) with aluminum bedding? also unsure if it is pillar? I know they are MY rifles and I should know them better than this but I recently just got into longer range shooting and never paid attention to torque specs and such before so this is all new to me. From what I read each rifle may be different so I guess what I am looking for is a starting point AND a MAX torque point for both. Id rather lose a bit of accuracy than torque to hard and hurt my rifle some how.

I torque all of mine the same at 80 in/lbs

 

[Bigeclipse]

I torque all of mine the same at 80 in/lbs

not sure if that is sarcasm or not but that definitely seems way to high...I have heard that even 40 in/lbs on non pillar bedded stocks can cause the the stock material to compress or something like that.

 

[WildRose]

not sure if that is sarcasm or not but that definitely seems way to high...I have heard that even 40 in/lbs on non pillar bedded stocks can cause the the stock material to compress or something like that.

All of my stocks are pillar bedded. It's not worth the wasted ammo to shoot anything that hasn't been properly bedded and floated.

I literally do both before I ever fire one even brand new.

 

[Bigeclipse]

All of my stocks are pillar bedded. It's not worth the wasted ammo to shoot anything that hasn't been properly bedded and floated.

I literally do both before I ever fire one even brand new.

Ok well I wouldnt know if my guns are pillar bedded. I will try searching around. I dont believe the browning x-bolt is but the remington may be.

Any other suggestions from people?

 

[AZShooter]

I have found a good starting torque is 40 in/lb front and 35 in/lb rear for unbedded or bedded without pillars. Some rifles will tighten up groups with a bit more torque others show no change. The beauty of torquing to a value is if you should remove the stock you can get back to where it shot best.

As long as you have a torque wrench, Leupold recommends torquing the scope caps at 22 in/lb. It is really easy to surpass this without much effort causing damage to the scope. On some Leupolds overtorquing it will interfere with the adjustments. Just saying....

 

[Bigeclipse]

I have found a good starting torque is 40 in/lb front and 35 in/lb rear for unbedded or bedded without pillars. Some rifles will tighten up groups with a bit more torque others show no change. The beauty of torquing to a value is if you should remove the stock you can get back to where it shot best.

As long as you have a torque wrench, Leupold recommends torquing the scope caps at 22 in/lb. It is really easy to surpass this without much effort causing damage to the scope. On some Leupolds overtorquing it will interfere with the adjustments. Just saying....

Thank you for the advice!

 

[WildRose]

I have found a good starting torque is 40 in/lb front and 35 in/lb rear for unbedded or bedded without pillars. Some rifles will tighten up groups with a bit more torque others show no change. The beauty of torquing to a value is if you should remove the stock you can get back to where it shot best.

As long as you have a torque wrench, Leupold recommends torquing the scope caps at 22 in/lb. It is really easy to surpass this without much effort causing damage to the scope. On some Leupolds overtorquing it will interfere with the adjustments. Just saying....

In my younger days I twisted off a lot of scope ring screws.

Once I got a torque wrench I torque all ring screws to 16in/lbs. No scope movement, not broken screws.

 

[Dosh]

Big, if your rifles are straight from the factory it is unlikely they have any bedding of any kind. You did not mention the material the stocks are made of which would dictate the amount of torque needed. Since you are going to re-torque them just pull the screws and the action out and take a look inside the stock for bedding. Also a dab of blue Locktite on all the screws will help them from loosening. Good luck.

 

[Bigeclipse]

Big, if your rifles are straight from the factory it is unlikely they have any bedding of any kind. You did not mention the material the stocks are made of which would dictate the amount of torque needed. Since you are going to re-torque them just pull the screws and the action out and take a look inside the stock for bedding. Also a dab of blue Locktite on all the screws will help them from loosening. Good luck.

I know that BOTH rifles come bedded from the factory as both are stated as such. I just dont know what type of bedding they have. Both have free-floated barrels. I have read that the x-bolt has poor-mediocre bedding at best but appearently the remington 700 mountain ss with the bell and carlson synthetic stock has some really nice aluminum bedding or something. I just dont know if either are pillar bedded or not...I am going on a hunting trip very soon "oct. 27th" with the remington 700 and it is currently shooting 3/4 inch groups so I am not going to mess with it as my farthest shots this trip will be sub 200 yards, but once I start reloading and tuning my rifles I want to better understand rifle bedding and action screw torques and such. I definitely need to work on the browning as to adjust that trigger I had to take out the bedding screws and when I called browning about torque specs I got two different answer both seemed high for a wood stock that most likely does not have pillar bedding...65 and 55 inch pounds.