Eh, just not in my particular instance. I got the 180 VLD targets to still shoot pretty dang good with a longer jump (but that was 200 rounds ago). But I'm also being a little extra about the "hardly group" part. If they shoot 3/4 MOA, I'm considering that trash lol. They will pretty much all shoot 3/4 MOA right now. I'm sure the actual erosion inconsistencies is also playing a role in that, not just the longer jump.Bergers won't shoot with big jump? That's weird. I've had some good success with excessive jump... in the .120 to .160 range.