7 mm magun and 168 berger bullet

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  1. ann brezinski

    ann brezinski Well-Known Member

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    does any one know the loads that gunwerks was shooting in there 7 mm remington magnum and the 168 grain berger vld bullets.i thought they used h1000 or returbo but was not sure.thanks for your time.
    gary
     
  2. Dosh

    Dosh Well-Known Member

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    The 168 VLD and H1000 in 7RM are a great marriage.
     
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  3. AZShooter

    AZShooter Well-Known Member

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    I loaded three 7 Rem mags for my friends and myself. Used Retumbo with the 168 classic hunter. 71.5 to 73 grains yielded 3050 to 3125 fps with 26" barrels.
     
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  4. mtank

    mtank Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I’m looking to load some 168 vld’s in my 7 mag as well but I was looking @ magnum powder or possibly the re-25.
     
  5. mtank

    mtank Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I couldn’t find any magnum or retumbo on the shaft locally. I found some h1000 locally though. They had the h1000 plus 168 vld hunters so I saved on shipping & can load on Friday.
     
  6. Dosh

    Dosh Well-Known Member

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    m, lucky you found H1000, nonexistent here. + on buying local. We always go local and avoid shipping charges.
     
  7. mtank

    mtank Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    That’s what I was trying to do but no one had anything I wanted. I’m about 30 mins from a small Cabela’s but it’s a joke on most things.
     
  8. ann brezinski

    ann brezinski Well-Known Member

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    how does this bullet on your opion work on deer ?how far can it be used and kill the animal.i see on tv its good to 1000 yared on antelope and deer but thats on tv.
    gary b
     
  9. lgordee

    lgordee Well-Known Member

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    I have a node with Reloader 26 @ 66.8 gr. and averaging 2950 fps. 168 Berger's.
     
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  10. AZShooter

    AZShooter Well-Known Member

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    Well Ann....it will most likely bounce off any deer <grin>

    All bergers including VLDs I have used on deer, antelope and elk have killed, many in spectacular fashion including the 7mm 168 VLD.

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    John Barsness wrote an article back in August 2007 on performance of Berger VLDs on game in Handloader.

    JB and a few others including Walt Berger went to N. Zealand and used: .257 Roberts (115-grain VLD at 2,900 fps); a .264 Winchester Magnum (140 at 3,000); a pair of .30-06s (168 at 2,900 and 185 at 2,800) and a .300 Winchester Magnum (168 at 3,100 and 185 at 3,000 fps).

    They had a chance to kill goats along with other animals. Guide, Mike, told them the goats were hard to kill. "We shot goats, and shot goats, and shot goats, at ranges from 20 to 400 yards, and in the end Mike said the VLD was about the best goat bullet he had ever seen." " every goat showed the same pattern: an entrance hole so small that we had to part the hair to find it, then a very tiny wound channel a couple of inches long – even when the bullet hit shoulder blade – and then massive destruction inside the chest cavity, two to three times more than I’ve seen with any big game bullet."

    " I would be comfortable using VLDs on any North American game from pronghorn to caribou, and probably will, partly because when placed correctly they do not shoot up a bunch of meat. The entrance hole is needle thin, and by the time what’s left of the bullet hits the far side of the chest, the real damage has been done inside."


    link for entire article:
    https://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/hl248partial.pdf
     
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  11. hunter67wa

    hunter67wa Well-Known Member

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    Shot an elk last year with one out of a 284 at 919 yards. They work
     
  12. Backcountry sports

    Backcountry sports Well-Known Member

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    Retumbo that's what Aaron told me
     
  13. Wachsmann

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    I used to watch them on TV a lot and I ordered some of the learning videos when John burns was with them. I watched and learn and going out and triyig some of those things out is what got me into long range shooting; and then as my skills grew I went to trying it out on some animals. Anyways the 168 VLD in a 7mm at 3000fps or there about is a north american killer out to 1k. I don't remember the powder charge but in a few I could see what the range is in my Berger manual for retumbo and H1000. I wish Berger would release a second addition with a lot more powders. That would be a seller.
     
  14. Dosh

    Dosh Well-Known Member

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    Presently the problem with using H1000 and Retumbo is the scarcity of both. The Enduron IMR7977 and 8133 are still available and are nearly identical in burn rate. These can still be found in a large enough quantity to sustain a load work up and a few backup pounds.
     
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