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The .264 Winchester Magnum has a belt - but they do make case gages for them.

 

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26 NOSLER !!! :D
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Talking with @GLTaylor about building a 264 cal that would be beltless in the 70-80 grains of powder capacity. Need to have good quality and available brass. Thoughts?

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ADD a BOYDS wood stock (like I did) :D Forest Camo Short Action (Long Action shown)
I order direct online from BOYDS, and pick everything I need: Pachmayr pad, etc.


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Order direct for all the options you need.
https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/

OK. Here are my crappy cellphone photos of my 6.5 PRC.
Yes, a right-hand action, but the BOYDS stock is for a Lefty (an option).
An old LEUPOLD 3.5-10x50mm AO scope, tall turrets.
Ammo was more readily available - now it sucks = have to reload.
One might look at the 270 Winchester in this type of configuration, and check-out Ammoseek.com for ammo.
 

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Who needs to burn that much powder? The recoil should be brutal. I have looked at the tables for 30-06 and 300 Win Mag. You put 20 extra grains of powder in a 300 Win and get 200-400 fps more. Obviously, it is not linear.

What I am saying is, do you really gain that much from burning 20-30% more powder?
 

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Who needs to burn that much powder? The recoil should be brutal. I have looked at the tables for 30-06 and 300 Win Mag. You put 20 extra grains of powder in a 300 Win and get 200-400 fps more. Obviously, it is not linear.

What I am saying is, do you really gain that much from burning 20-30% more powder?
That's why the 6.5 PRC.
But if I had the $$$ to go custom rifle: 6.5-06 or 6.5-06 Ackley-Improved

- Chuck Hawks
 

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A 6.5 Sherman might get you close to your velocity goals with the 123 AH. Mine with a 28” Hart drives 140 Berger’s at 3339 FPS. Would burn a lot less powder than others, and recoil is minimal. I’m hoping to try the 124 HH out of it this winter. Just need to prep some new brass.
 

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This is why "I" never ask what rifle to build or buy.
I SEARCHED FOR 6.5 A.I. AND 270 A.I. = NOT MUCH LUCK.
BUT I FOUND THIS!

:D TEMPTING INDEED! :D .
280 A.I. AMMO

280 A.I. BRASS

280 A.I. STOCK RIFLES


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Yep. Whenever you are aiming up or downward, it will shoot higher that when you shot flat at the range.
I shot a 5-pt. bull elk at about 60-yards down hill, and he was facing me, and I aimed the crosshairs under his chin on his chest, I shot and he just dropped to the 165-gr. Nosler Partition bullet from my 700 BDL 30-06. - He was belly up and legs twitching, then he died. But I did not see any entrance hole on his chest. - What happened is that it shot high over his head between his antlers and impacted down his spine. I saw his eyes bulge in the 4x Leupold. (Teton NP Special Leftover Permit 1996 -- shot him in the hills and we had horses -- not at the Elk Refuge.) Baffled, I shot it at the range again, and it was shooting the same as before.

A year later in Casper, WY at the Event Center, I met Wayne Van Zwoll, and I mentioned that hunt. He told me that whether aiming up or downward, the bullet will impact high. https://www.outdoorlife.com/authors/wayne-van-zwoll/

I compensated on the next hunt on a broadside mule deer - range 205-yards, and a little downhill, so I put the horizontal crosshair on his bottom line behind the left shoulder, and it went where I wanted about 5-inches above point of aim. - it was zeroed for 200. :D

VIDEO: This guy hit high on this elk.
 
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I've been waiting on 6.5 Max brass for quite a while ( like everybody else). Also got an email into JGS about a reamer for the 6.5x7mm Blaser. Same as a 6.5x257 Wby sans belt.
 

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I just don't understand the dilemma here.

It is still a .264" bullet and the smaller the diameter of the bore, the quicker the law of diminishing returns will kick in. You can build a 6.5-300 Weatherby if you want super speed but it is also VERY inefficient. You have to pack the case full of powder just to get a small percent increase in velocity.

You can eat 5 cookies and still be hungry
You can eat 10 cookies and be content
You can eat 15 cookies and be full
You can eat 20 cookies and puke your guts out.

20 cookies look good when they are in the jar, and while you maybe be ABLE to eat 20...
What's the point of making yourself sick?

Same thing with the 6.5's.

To me, while still overbore, the 6.5 wsm or even the PRC is just right for the heavy pills. 60-70gr of powder pushing a 147-150gr bullet to 3100+fps has few drawbacks.

6.5 wsm has Decent barrel life, extended supersonic flight, good energy inside hunting distances <700 yards, short action, efficient case design (with little stretch or expansion), shorter barrel capabilities, availability of brass (Norma, federal, Hornady, nosler, rem, win (no Lapua though)), no custom dies, low recoil, and it feeds just fine in a repeater (even though they seem to like control feed actions).

If you want to shoot faster then go down in caliber, if you want more energy, go up in caliber.
 

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