45-70 accuracy

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  1. Blackpowder72

    Blackpowder72 Active Member

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    Got a new CVA Scout V2 in 45-70. Got to shoot it the other day getting 3/4" to 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards with Hornady ammo. Is that about normal groups for a 45-70 ?
     
  2. WildBillG

    WildBillG Well-Known Member

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    If you hand load you may get better groups yet. That old cartridge will really surprise you with its accuracy.
     
  3. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    I average 1 MOA with my 45-70 but I am shooting it the way it was designed to be shot. Heavy 500ish gr bullets with Black Powder. I am shooting an 1874 Sharps copy with Vernier sight.
    The CVA scout in 45-70 is a hunting rifle not a shoot little bitty groups target rifle. If you are shooting 1 1/2" and under groups at 100 yards with factory ammo then I would hang on to it. Where you need to be concerned is learning how much drop you will experience. Depending on bullet and velocity you will average between 3 and 6 inches drop between 50 and 100 yards and will experience about the same between 100 and 150 then again between 150 and 200 yards. I am running a 518 gr bullet at 1150 fps and drop is 6 inches between 50 and 100 yards and a foot between 100 and 200 yards. You really need to know precisely the yardage and your drop past 150 yards. Great thing about the 45-70 is you will never be under gunned for anything in North America with the proper bullet and load and if you line two of what you are shooting at side by side you can get two for the price of one bullet. LOL A freight train don't have to be moving fast to run through a bunch of stuff. You did not mention which Hornady ammo you are shooting but the Hornady and Sierra 300 gr HP bullet is a good deer size game bullet. The Hornady 350 soft nose is a tougher bullet than the HPs. The old Remington and Speer 405 soft points are good one bullet do everything bullets.
     
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  4. imyourhuckleberry

    imyourhuckleberry Well-Known Member

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    45-70 is very accurate this are rounds I shot at 200 yards using vernier sights on my sharps. Ammo is factor Winchester 300 grains. Once I got dialed in I was able to get a couple of bullseye. I hope to do better once I get my cataract surgery done and reload this rounds.

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  5. mackgee

    mackgee Well-Known Member

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    I have a Custom Marlin Modern hunter .45-70 that will shoot groups with every shot touching at 100 yards with only a 5 power scope. It’s crazy accurate!

    Mac
     
  6. Blackpowder72

    Blackpowder72 Active Member

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    Right now I'm shooting the Hornady Leverevolution 325gr. That's about all my dealer had for ammo . Thinking about trying some Winchester hollow points . I had some bad luck years ago shooting Hornady muzzleloader bullets, no blood trail witch is why I shoot Barnes bullets in my muzzleloader now.
     
  7. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    The reason that you probably had bad luck with the Hornady muzzle loader bullets is because they were pistol bullets that were pushed too fast or even if they were the newer SST ones they have a reputation of being too soft also for most modern magnum muzzleloaders especially at closer ranges.
    The 325 gr Leverevolution 45-70 is a smoking load and has a good reputation for thin skin game. Because of the velocity and bullet profile you gain a lot flatter trajectory. Put the bullet where it is supposed to go and have a sharp knife. Good luck.