Some told my that the difference with the 338win and the 300win where so light( as impack force terminal effect) that they is no reason to use the 338win. Told him e was wrong the terminal effect is not the same on game. We argue a bit, was fun but neither of us change or mind. Im for the 338win. Maby e as not that moch knoleag on the 338 round sins it not use alot around here. The guy was a sold man, he have a fee 338win in stock but just not pushin for it. E told me to go for the 300ultra if i want to go stronger. Not sure to want the 300ultra but the 220gr rond nose hornady interlock e sho me for reaold sur look interesting. Could use them for hunting and shooting. What would be your chose beatwin those 3 cal? As for a first long range rifle? For shot around 500yrd max? Wich is my longer possible shot may by... Can not buy 2 rifle and realy want to make the right choose. That why im asking so much question.