What do you think the 285 amx would do for elr. Do you think it would open up good for the elr like 1400 and out or what? I am not saying would it be better than the berger otm. But being they are soft do you think they would be the same as the elite hunter, I would thing they would open more consistent. May it be good or bad. Also would it be a fair test of shooting them into test media, I seen John burns testing the bergers along time ago. He had a box and was shooting them into wet news paper sandwiched with a beef shoulder in there. He shot all the way to like 700 yards testing but ended up having a tough time hitting precise enough. I was wondering if I tested them, and I put them in one of these old 338 wins with a slow load and shoot at a distance where impacts would be about the same as the distance of 1400-1800 yards? I know nothing acts like flesh and blood. But would this tell me anything?