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<blockquote data-quote="Northkill" data-source="post: 2361611" data-attributes="member: 110890"><p>Wierd stuff happens in the deer woods for sure. I can sympathize with the inexplicable. This is a small sample size, but I've been experimenting and evaluating some of these things myself. This year my two sons both did shots in the rear ham of two different deer - one by necessity to put a wounded deer down just before it disappeared, and the other was on a deer drive when the deer spun just as he pulled the trigger. Both were about 200 +/- yds. The smaller deer was with the 7-LRM and 180 Berger Hybrids running near 3K. Shot centered on the rear ham (it was moving, so hard to center between). The big 180 only made it to the gut and needed finished off later. The other deer was hit with the 6.5 Sherman Max pushing 123 Hammers at 3,500. That little pill took itself through the rear ham and exited out at the shoulder - and this deer was bigger. Shot another one last evening with the same rifle and the little 123 pushed almost the full length of the deer on a big doe - exited out the rear body cavity and sheared through part of the one rear ham while taking out the heart up front. Again, range was +/- 200 yds. </p><p></p><p>The shape of the petal-less shank does make a difference on the tissue displacement as it drives through. Not sure how that Barnes would compare to other big-name monos. Barnes are designed and advertised for their expanded cutting petals, not necessarily for shedding them, so may not be engineered for petal-less performance..? (just theory)</p><p></p><p>Our deer are incredibly hardy. The will to live is extreme. How can we get that tough? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I've had great results with Bergers and some not so great. I think you'll find that with any bullet. It's impossible to know what the bullet was thinking when it decides to do something out of character. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤠" title="Cowboy hat face :cowboy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f920.png" data-shortname=":cowboy:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Northkill, post: 2361611, member: 110890"] Wierd stuff happens in the deer woods for sure. I can sympathize with the inexplicable. This is a small sample size, but I've been experimenting and evaluating some of these things myself. This year my two sons both did shots in the rear ham of two different deer - one by necessity to put a wounded deer down just before it disappeared, and the other was on a deer drive when the deer spun just as he pulled the trigger. Both were about 200 +/- yds. The smaller deer was with the 7-LRM and 180 Berger Hybrids running near 3K. Shot centered on the rear ham (it was moving, so hard to center between). The big 180 only made it to the gut and needed finished off later. The other deer was hit with the 6.5 Sherman Max pushing 123 Hammers at 3,500. That little pill took itself through the rear ham and exited out at the shoulder - and this deer was bigger. Shot another one last evening with the same rifle and the little 123 pushed almost the full length of the deer on a big doe - exited out the rear body cavity and sheared through part of the one rear ham while taking out the heart up front. Again, range was +/- 200 yds. The shape of the petal-less shank does make a difference on the tissue displacement as it drives through. Not sure how that Barnes would compare to other big-name monos. Barnes are designed and advertised for their expanded cutting petals, not necessarily for shedding them, so may not be engineered for petal-less performance..? (just theory) Our deer are incredibly hardy. The will to live is extreme. How can we get that tough? ;) I've had great results with Bergers and some not so great. I think you'll find that with any bullet. It's impossible to know what the bullet was thinking when it decides to do something out of character. 🤠 [/QUOTE]
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