33 Nosler with 22" barrel and lightweight TTSX

SSG Graybush

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The Max is an improved SAUM. Case capacity is ~77 grains if I remember correctly. Should push the 213 Hammer just over 3000 and the 235 hammer close to 2900. I haven't seen any loads with the TTSX but the 185 should be getting up there.
I must be mistaken. Am sure it was 300 prc brass being improved and thought it was a Sherman design. Well good luck with it.
 

Akmtnrunner

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A 22” 33 Nosler is still fairly efficient. It’s not much larger than the 338 win that is the same bore to case ratio as the 30-06.

I am also interested in a similar build with a suppressor. AB suppressors has a very lightweight 33 caliber one that is apparently very good.
 

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A 22” 33 Nosler is still fairly efficient. It’s not much larger than the 338 win that is the same bore to case ratio as the 30-06.

I am also interested in a similar build with a suppressor. AB suppressors has a very lightweight 33 caliber one that is apparently very good.
Have you run an AB suppressor yet? I am thinking they will be ideal for two of my builds, I really like their concept.
 

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Have you run an AB suppressor yet? I am thinking they will be ideal for two of my builds, I really like their concept.
I have not. I almost bought one last fall but I chickened out because I couldn't find any field reports. A few youtuber's reviews have since come out but who knows what that is worth. But it sounds like the owner/developer knows his stuff and it should be very effective. Ryan Avery (on Rokslide) has one and says he'll be trying it against TB Ultra 5 and 7 soon on a short barreled 300 wsm. https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/my-300-wsm-aka-the-pug.218382/page-5#post-2192119
 

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I chickened out three months ago. I just hate all the nonsense of buying a suppressor. I will check the thread and hopefully I can man up and buy one lol.
 

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Well I don't know about a beating, I might offer up a slap on the back though, A gun like that makes sense, I've never been one to shy away from a long or tricky shot, my longest shots have exceeded 700 yards, however after more than fifty years of chasing big game in most of the western states I've taken nearly 400 game animals, of these animals more than half came under 50 yards than over, I feel that a short light weight rifle thats well balanced and shoulders well will fill more tags than a long heavy one, my choice of optics were without target turrets or mill dots, my rifle wore either 2x7 or 2.5x8, my caliber of choice the 338 Winchester, my first 338 came in 1975 A ruger M77, being a follower of elmer keith i loaded 76 grs of H4831 behind a 250 gr bullet, i got my first chrongraph in the late 70's the kind you had to shoot through circuit screens, those slugs clocked over 2840 fps, i latter verified this during this age of didgital chronographs, I eventually cut the barrel down to 23in turned the barrel to .570 at the muzzle and a fitted nice peace of bastogne walnut, hunting weight is 8lbs even, A full 1 1/2 lighter than it's original form, about 20 years ago I went even lighter, the finished product wears a 21 in tube a six Interprize stock a 2.5x8 Leopold this one has the B&C reticle hunting weight 6.2 oz, i have never shot anything but Barnes in this rifle, I started with 225 gr slugs and hunted several seasons with them when I tried the Barnes 185gr XLC and the latter triple shock, these185gr slugs clock at just over 3200fps with H414, I latter tried the 160gr but with 414 I couldn't break 3300fps, perhaps a faster powder would change that, however I did hunt with the 160gr for a couple of seasons harvesting a couple of blacktail as well as a couple of Idaho whitetail, I switched back to the heavier slugs but before I did I ran into a beast of a black bear one morning, it measured over 8 feet the shot was about 30 yds, I hit him between the point of the shoulder and base of the neck the bullet exited thru the off ham, the animal dropped where it stood and rolled down the hill, I'm sure if I could have recovered that slug it still would have weighed 160grs, not sure I need a heavier slug but should I encounter another bear the next one might be heading south instead of north so I feel better with the heavier slugs, although the 160's did all a bullet can do, the 338 bore does not suffer from a shortter barrel as badly as the 30 caliber and under do, so I say go for it and have fun,
 

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A 22” 33 Nosler is still fairly efficient. It’s not much larger than the 338 win that is the same bore to case ratio as the 30-06.

I am also interested in a similar build with a suppressor. AB suppressors has a very lightweight 33 caliber one that is apparently very good.
I was looking at the Griffin 33 cal ultra-lite Sportsman can. Its only 11.7 or 12.7 oz's.
 

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Well I don't know about a beating, I might offer up a slap on the back though, A gun like that makes sense, I've never been one to shy away from a long or tricky shot, my longest shots have exceeded 700 yards, however after more than fifty years of chasing big game in most of the western states I've taken nearly 400 game animals, of these animals more than half came under 50 yards than over, I feel that a short light weight rifle thats well balanced and shoulders well will fill more tags than a long heavy one, my choice of optics were without target turrets or mill dots, my rifle wore either 2x7 or 2.5x8, my caliber of choice the 338 Winchester, my first 338 came in 1975 A ruger M77, being a follower of elmer keith i loaded 76 grs of H4831 behind a 250 gr bullet, i got my first chrongraph in the late 70's the kind you had to shoot through circuit screens, those slugs clocked over 2840 fps, i latter verified this during this age of didgital chronographs, I eventually cut the barrel down to 23in turned the barrel to .570 at the muzzle and a fitted nice peace of bastogne walnut, hunting weight is 8lbs even, A full 1 1/2 lighter than it's original form, about 20 years ago I went even lighter, the finished product wears a 21 in tube a six Interprize stock a 2.5x8 Leopold this one has the B&C reticle hunting weight 6.2 oz, i have never shot anything but Barnes in this rifle, I started with 225 gr slugs and hunted several seasons with them when I tried the Barnes 185gr XLC and the latter triple shock, these185gr slugs clock at just over 3200fps with H414, I latter tried the 160gr but with 414 I couldn't break 3300fps, perhaps a faster powder would change that, however I did hunt with the 160gr for a couple of seasons harvesting a couple of blacktail as well as a couple of Idaho whitetail, I switched back to the heavier slugs but before I did I ran into a beast of a black bear one morning, it measured over 8 feet the shot was about 30 yds, I hit him between the point of the shoulder and base of the neck the bullet exited thru the off ham, the animal dropped where it stood and rolled down the hill, I'm sure if I could have recovered that slug it still would have weighed 160grs, not sure I need a heavier slug but should I encounter another bear the next one might be heading south instead of north so I feel better with the heavier slugs, although the 160's did all a bullet can do, the 338 bore does not suffer from a shortter barrel as badly as the 30 caliber and under do, so I say go for it and have fun,
I figured a 160 ttsx would hold together and pass through and give a longer pbz. I dont mind dialing elevation. But a 250 yard pbz would be nice. I have a 7mag 8T 26" thats shoots a 180 vld-h to 1000 yards real good. But everytime out there Ive shot under 100. And the longest anybody I go with shot is 383. With a rifle I set up for him and developed a load for😉. I know a 375 is pretty stand for brown bears but I doubt they'd know the difference. A 33 cal solid is gonna put a 35 cal hole clean through pretty much anything in CONUS. Thanks for the onfo.
 

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The AB suppressors are lighter than that with a flush mount. I am not trying to dissuade you, but pointing out another ultra-lite option. I know that the Griffin has great reviews.
I am open to all options. And wouldnt mind a direct thread. And would actually prefer it to shorten aol. And lighter is better. As long as it lightweight and short am interested. Thanks for the info. I will definitely look into them.
 

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If your rig will shoot the 185 TTSX well then by all means I'd give serious consideration to rocking it! Go 23" and make sure it'll feed out of your action of choice prior to diving in too deep!

I love the 33's, the Nozler is a darn good one!

The only comment I'll make regarding the lighter mono's is that I really want 2 holes when it comes to elk and the light mono's will not always do that.

The 210 NPT is a heck of a bullet as the 210 TTSX is as well!

Back in the day I ran a .340 Wby a lot (M700) and I really came to appreciate how they'd slap a bull around!
 

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Graybush,

Any update on your project?

I just dove in to a similar one. So far, I have on order:
22" CarbonSix bull contour barrel twisted 1:10 (heaviest I'll shoot is 265 and formulas say 1:10 is good)
AB Raptor 10-stack Suppressor
Mesa Precision Altitude stock
Red Snake nEXT bottom metal
AICS magazine with 3.6" internal room

The supply of magnum T3x's has dried up for the year. I do have a T3x that was a 7RM and rebored by JES into a 338 WM that I am not wild about. The stock barrel is a bit whippy and I can't thead it for a suppressor. I can't decide if I should cannibalize this for the action or sell it to help fund the 33 Nosler. I am leaning towards selling it as it's a rare but very practical hunting rifle here in AK.

It's amazing how catching the suppressor bug changes perspective on rifles. The truth is, I am satisfied with the performance of the 338 Win Mag but I'd need to rebarrel it to use a suppressor. So if I need to do that, in my mind, I may as well move to a modernized version of it.

Anyways, I do have a question for anyone experienced with the 33 Nosler . . . If I am looking to shoot 225 to 265 grain bullets (265 LRX being the longest at 1.72"), is it worth having it longer throated? The magazine has enormous room for the long ogive and pointy tips, but I am not sure if the bearing surface of those bullets will actually need it.
 
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