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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 6463" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>Here are some rules of thumb that I use for my LR deer hunting. I shoot Hornady 165gr SST and find them to offer the best compromise of accuracy, ballistics, and ongame performance. Cost and availability is also an issue in Canada.</p><p></p><p>For poly tipped softpoints and bullets like MK, I would want an impact vel of at least 1500fps, with a max of 2800fps. This ensures very good bullet performance. Bullet weight can range from 140 to 180gr for the ranges you mention. 6.5mm to 30 cal would work too. The cartridge you use to get this performance is really not that important. Most anything can be made to shoot today due to better bullets, dies, brass and reamers.</p><p></p><p>For accuracy, I want to hit a milk jug (for deer size game) 90%+ of the time at my max distance under field conditions and weather. How I do this is I shoot rocks in the back 40. I set up, range, dial elevation and windage, take a windage shot or two, engage target and hit. If I cannot hit consistently, then the load/gun/distance is not up to the task.</p><p></p><p>For the amount of money you are probably going to throw at a new factory rifle, I would suggest getting a used beater and spinning on a good barrel with a proper chamber. You are taking a big gamble that the new fancy shiny rifle will shoot with the accuracy that you want. You are assuming that the throat/barrel on a factory rifle was cut well enough that you can get sub MOA accuracy.</p><p></p><p>I would rather take my chances with a Lilja, Hart, PacNor, Douglas, or Shilen pipe on a Mauser action, timney/optima trigger, and Boyd stock for under $800. I could even go to someone like ER Shaw and have them install one of their barrels on an action for a total cost of around $600 ready for a scope.</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 6463, member: 8947"] Here are some rules of thumb that I use for my LR deer hunting. I shoot Hornady 165gr SST and find them to offer the best compromise of accuracy, ballistics, and ongame performance. Cost and availability is also an issue in Canada. For poly tipped softpoints and bullets like MK, I would want an impact vel of at least 1500fps, with a max of 2800fps. This ensures very good bullet performance. Bullet weight can range from 140 to 180gr for the ranges you mention. 6.5mm to 30 cal would work too. The cartridge you use to get this performance is really not that important. Most anything can be made to shoot today due to better bullets, dies, brass and reamers. For accuracy, I want to hit a milk jug (for deer size game) 90%+ of the time at my max distance under field conditions and weather. How I do this is I shoot rocks in the back 40. I set up, range, dial elevation and windage, take a windage shot or two, engage target and hit. If I cannot hit consistently, then the load/gun/distance is not up to the task. For the amount of money you are probably going to throw at a new factory rifle, I would suggest getting a used beater and spinning on a good barrel with a proper chamber. You are taking a big gamble that the new fancy shiny rifle will shoot with the accuracy that you want. You are assuming that the throat/barrel on a factory rifle was cut well enough that you can get sub MOA accuracy. I would rather take my chances with a Lilja, Hart, PacNor, Douglas, or Shilen pipe on a Mauser action, timney/optima trigger, and Boyd stock for under $800. I could even go to someone like ER Shaw and have them install one of their barrels on an action for a total cost of around $600 ready for a scope. Jerry [/QUOTE]
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