I agree. The 30 nosler or 30-28 nosler is an awesome round. I just got a 30-28 reamer in a few weeks ago and so far its an absolute tack driver. I bought that reamer so guys that Ive built 28 noslers for can get a 30 cal magnum and just neck their brass up once their 28 nosler barrels are shot out. The only group I shot at 400 since doing the ladder test had .1" vertical and was 1.0" wide. For guys that already have a standard mag bf its a great option. It tops out where the norma improved starts off. For guys starting from scratch the norma improved is the way to go in my opinion. Buy 100 pieces of brass and itll last several barrels. The whole die fiasco I had with that company that won't be named really sucked. Im glad Hornady is making me a bunch that work great and are reasonably priced. Theyre gonna be $220 for a full length bushing die and Micrometer adjustable seater. Very reasonable considering the quality.