Almost any where you go you can find one of these two calibers for sale. However, gunstore owners say they are the least saught after. It seems if 30-06 is as unpopular as it as ever been. I'm hoping that dosen't happen to the 270 as well. I think both of these cartridges are outsanding big game calibers and may even be the "standard" but everybody wants somthing better today. Oh well, I guess there will be alot of bargains on these calibers.